What was your last purchase?

[mcantar]

Originally Posted by Junkie

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123594047829 I'm tempted to pick that up just to see how shitty everything inside is

Do it! I've found that the design of Chinese garbage is actually generally decent (because they copy it from the real thing)... where their products suffer is material quality and finishing (deburring ports and such). If the material isn't garbage, popping it open and deburring some rough edges or remaking a small piece might get you a decent unit.

Originally Posted by shinyribs

Cheap enough for a test ride, but the seller doesn't accept returns, so something to consider.

Doesn't matter, you can still return it. The "Accept Returns?" box on the seller page is effectively useless... a buyer can still open a return case for a handful of reasons and eBay forces the seller to comply. The seller can either accept your return within X days and provide a shipping label to get their item back, or ignore it... in which case eBay issues the buyer a refund and deducts the amount from the seller whether they agree or not and they don't get the item back.

Ebay is VERY anti-seller, and gets moreso by the day (almost literally, there's a new "seller update" every couple months and every single time there's some new rule that puts sellers at even more of a disadvantage as well as raising fees). Many many sellers have quit their eBay stores in recent months as it's just too costly to eat the returns from shitty buyers on top of the fee increases and useless customer service.
They're trying to become more like Amazon, and are actively pushing low-volume and small-time sellers off the site. In the process of that they're alienating a significant portion of their sellers, and all that will be left by this time next year is the Chinese knockoff stuff and a handful of large-volume outfits here in various niches.

So yeah... don't let the "does not accept returns" thing deter you there.

[shinyribs]

Originally Posted by SEBSPEED

or the RFYs break

Give it a rest.

[Junkie]

Originally Posted by mcantar

Do it! I've found that the design of Chinese garbage is actually generally decent (because they copy it from the real thing)... where their products suffer is material quality and finishing (deburring ports and such). If the material isn't garbage, popping it open and deburring some rough edges or remaking a small piece might get you a decent unit.




Doesn't matter, you can still return it. The "Accept Returns?" box on the seller page is effectively useless... a buyer can still open a return case for a handful of reasons and eBay forces the seller to comply. The seller can either accept your return within X days and provide a shipping label to get their item back, or ignore it... in which case eBay issues the buyer a refund and deducts the amount from the seller whether they agree or not and they don't get the item back.

Ebay is VERY anti-seller, and gets moreso by the day (almost literally, there's a new "seller update" every couple months and every single time there's some new rule that puts sellers at even more of a disadvantage as well as raising fees). Many many sellers have quit their eBay stores in recent months as it's just too costly to eat the returns from shitty buyers on top of the fee increases and useless customer service.
They're trying to become more like Amazon, and are actively pushing low-volume and small-time sellers off the site. In the process of that they're alienating a significant portion of their sellers, and all that will be left by this time next year is the Chinese knockoff stuff and a handful of large-volume outfits here in various niches.

So yeah... don't let the "does not accept returns" thing deter you there.

if the real deal wasn't $700 I'd be far more tempted to go with them, but that's a LOT of money

the normal Scotts style means putting it way up high or raising the bars, neither of which I like

of course, the fact that the design is the same doesn't mean that you can reasonably make it work: I've had China folding mirrors that worked well at first, but the anodizing on them was just cosmetic so the detent ball for the folding mechanism ate into the aluminum, they started wobbling, and there was nothing you could do about it

I also realized that they show chips that haven't been cleaned out of a hole, in the damn listing. https://www.cdnclouds.net/p/5253aa51..._109148485.jpg isn't exactly confidence inspiring as far as build quality goes.

[yantosh]

In the post and be with me tomorrow

[Mongoose]

damn sexy

[SEBSPEED]

Originally Posted by Junkie

the normal Scotts style means putting it way up high or raising the bars, neither of which I like

I was able to work around that, check my GSXR750 thread for more pics








I'm sure you could stick a chinese one on there with the same effort

[Junkie]

interesting, I'd never considered cutting the middle out of the bars.

[shinyribs]

Originally Posted by SEBSPEED

I was able to work around that, check my GSXR750 thread for more pics








I'm sure you could stick a chinese one on there with the same effort

Is that mounting plate in the first picture anchored to the steering stem to prevent it from twisting? Doesn't look like that stem has a keyway in it like some do that use a lock tab washer. Can you read that gauge while riding?

[mcantar]

Originally Posted by shinyribs

Is that mounting plate in the first picture anchored to the steering stem to prevent it from twisting? Doesn't look like that stem has a keyway in it like some do that use a lock tab washer. Can you read that gauge while riding?

The bolts on the mounting plate outboard of the anodized bit are going into something...

[Mattson]

3x exhaust port seals, 9eur. Scoured the entire europe, found em from the next town once I knew what to ask for.