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Wasn't too happy about the design of the headlight bracket so I mocked up the second version of it.

Made out of a T profile steel, shaped with the angle grinder and some speed holes. Besides being lighter it also brought the headlight closer to the frame.

It weighs about 168 grams. The standard headlight bracket placed by Suzuki had a weight of 600 grams.




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Not bad, definitely better than what I can make with hand tools!

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Not bad, definitely better than what I can make with hand tools!
Thanks! I like to think thay my skills are improving every time I build something new. I still need a vertical drill and a good belt sander for cleaner holes and surfaces when finishing parts.

Note to self: need to buy a good dust mask with removable filters. The surgeon-style ones are not providing the filtering needed when grinding metal.
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A drill press is nice to have. A mill is even nicer. Even the little Chinese mills are very convenient to have if you can afford them. I paid $300 used for this: https://www.harborfreight.com/two-sp...ine-44991.html (although I eventually replaced it with something larger).

If you can afford it, and have the space... get a mill.

A steering damper dampens steering oscillations. If it starts to leak, it may become a steering dampener. There's no such thing as a dampner.

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Wish I had a mill... I used to have a bench drill but it was so flimsy and the chuck wobbled it eventually wasn't any more accurate than going in by hand so I never used it and ended up selling it to my friend for a twenty just to get it off the table.

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Im looking for vertical drill, but nit focused at that now

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A drill press is nice to have. A mill is even nicer. Even the little Chinese mills are very convenient to have if you can afford them. I paid $300 used for this: https://www.harborfreight.com/two-sp...ine-44991.html (although I eventually replaced it with something larger).

If you can afford it, and have the space... get a mill.
What is the difference between a vertical drill, a drill press and a mill?

First two are the same and the mill has a sled that you can move against the drilling head? On X/Y axis?
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What is the difference between a vertical drill, a drill press and a mill?

First two are the same and the mill has a sled that you can move against the drilling head? On X/Y axis?
I've never heard "vertical drill" before, so I interpreted it as meaning drill press.

A mill (aka milling machine) has an X/Y table and in addition to drilling holes can cut slots, or whatever other shape you want (if you can control it well enough, obviously it can be challenging to cut some shapes), can cut a flat face, and so on. Cutting slots is done with an end mill, which looks similar to a drill (other than a flat face) but can be used for cutting sideways rather than just down. Facing can be done with and end mill or various other tools (such as a flycutter). There's also generally a way of finely controlling Z: mine is set up with a quill (like a drill press) that can be used with a lever (like a drill press) or a dial (for more precise work), as well as a table that can be raised and lowered using a dial. All of the dials are graduated, generally to .001" (maybe they're .02mm in metric countries, I don't know).

Of course, this requires a significantly more rigid machine: you can't use an end mill in a hand drill. You might be able to get away with using one in a drill press on aluminum, but (even if you install an X/Y table) it's unlikely to come out very well and runs the risk of pulling the chuck off of the drill press. With a mill you generally use a collet that can only use a narrow range of sizes (1/16" aka 1.5mm or so at most, but you're better off with 1/32"/.75mm), so you need a set rather than a single drill chuck, but the collet grips the tool far better (and is held in by a bolt, while most drill chucks are simply on a taper and can come off if you put force in the wrong direction). Of course, you can use a drill chuck on a mill if you're just drilling.

A steering damper dampens steering oscillations. If it starts to leak, it may become a steering dampener. There's no such thing as a dampner.

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I've never heard "vertical drill" before, so I interpreted it as meaning drill press.

A mill (aka milling machine) has an X/Y table and in addition to drilling holes can cut slots, or whatever other shape you want (if you can control it well enough, obviously it can be challenging to cut some shapes), can cut a flat face, and so on. Cutting slots is done with an end mill, which looks similar to a drill (other than a flat face) but can be used for cutting sideways rather than just down. Facing can be done with and end mill or various other tools (such as a flycutter). There's also generally a way of finely controlling Z: mine is set up with a quill (like a drill press) that can be used with a lever (like a drill press) or a dial (for more precise work), as well as a table that can be raised and lowered using a dial. All of the dials are graduated, generally to .001" (maybe they're .02mm in metric countries, I don't know).

Of course, this requires a significantly more rigid machine: you can't use an end mill in a hand drill. You might be able to get away with using one in a drill press on aluminum, but (even if you install an X/Y table) it's unlikely to come out very well and runs the risk of pulling the chuck off of the drill press. With a mill you generally use a collet that can only use a narrow range of sizes (1/16" aka 1.5mm or so at most, but you're better off with 1/32"/.75mm), so you need a set rather than a single drill chuck, but the collet grips the tool far better (and is held in by a bolt, while most drill chucks are simply on a taper and can come off if you put force in the wrong direction). Of course, you can use a drill chuck on a mill if you're just drilling.
Thank you for the clarification. I don't think I can afford a mill (e.g. with an adjustable / moving table on X Y axis, but I checked the prices for drill press and it's pretty affordable.

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I'll try to get the one equipped with the largest motor I can afford.
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