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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 05-02-2019, 02:51 AM   #201
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I'm glad to the see Kohler bike pop back up! Good luck getting after it, man.
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Winha Automatic, custom built motorcycle for the Finnish army in the seventies. Story goes the Kohler engine can be unbolted and fitted more or less as is to a waiting snowmobile chassis. Guys who have ridden these say it's a pig to take through rough terrain because of the variator but once you get the hang of the throttle it's within manageable. Never sold to civilians though a few yellow and a few white ones occasionally do pop up at auctions etc.

Edit: it in fact was sold to civilians but only 20 civ models ever left the factory til they went belly up. It was cheap compared to rivals as it was registered as working machinery instead of motorcycle due to it having a mechanical power coupler so it could spin sth like a tablesaw etc.

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Hey man, I ran across this video last night and thought it may be of some help to you. I don't remember if you mentioned buying or using a centrifugal clutch, but this guy rigged up a very simple belt drive that's basically just a slip clutch. Seems to work very well, and according to some of his other builds and remarks, he has much better luck with this style of drive vs a cent. clutch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTcLCTdgbN0
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You know, that's not a half bad idea, especially for the original premise of this build. It's stupid simple, it's worked for a hundred years on farm and small engine equipment.....

I'd have to set it up for a foot clutch with a locking mechanism, make it a permanently engaged setup as opposed to a normally released setup. I'm thinking dual 5x8 belts, have to figure out the gearing though. Not that it's hard to find pulleys either. Hmmm.....I'm liking this
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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 05-14-2019, 12:19 AM   #207
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I think you're on the hunt with the normally engaged idea. I poked around his channel and he builds some very fun looking bikes.
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This is more than doable. The crnak on the Kohler has decent length to it, not a big deal to double stack pulleys. I just gotta figure out the necessary ratios, plus the sprocket ratios for the jackshaft too. I'd love to see a top speed of 50, need that shit around Milwaukee lol
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Ok, doing some maths here to figure out what pulleys I'll need to make this work.

EN450 back wheel is running a 140/90-15 tire, which should come to 24.92" tall
To do 60mph that would require the wheel to reach 809RPM.

The Kohler is rated somewhere around 750-800rpm up to 3800rpm (in stock form).

If I run pulleys at a 2:1 ratio, and use the stock EX500 gearing (16/42) which equates to a 2.63 ratio, the back wheel would see a max of 723rpm. At 723rpm I'm looking at a max of 54mph. Not quite the 60 I'm hoping for, but ample for running around the city. I can always change out the gearing a little later if I found that there's enough power.

Idle (800rpm) is a lowly 11mph brisk walk. Cooool.

Foot clutch to a linkage to the "clutch" pulley, for solid disengagement (gonna be fun figuring what springs I need to hold proper tension to engage a pair of 5/8 belts lol).

I am for SURE gonna be using those aircraft pedals on this thing.....
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Not much of an update per se, but was in the shop a few times today working on customer cars and then the wifes car, and I'm starting to think I might I might try to actually do something with my YouTube channel. Not really shit on there right now, only actual how to was showing how to pop the driveshaft out of a differential on a shafty bike and the install for the throttle body kit I made for Mazda 2.5 swaps.

But I've got the rat to build, the Madura to fix, building a riding mower into a rat rod truckster, I go for random junkyard romps, fuck why not?

Gonna have to get a GoPro or something then, right now all my recording is done via phone....
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