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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 10-25-2017, 08:01 AM   #81
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Welp, I can't ship this piece of dirt to you, so you're gonna have to drag your ass over here to make it happen.
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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 10-25-2017, 08:12 AM   #82
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Keep us/me posted on the shock. My XR250 isn't terrible but it could use some love. Know of any common shock swaps for these?
I rebuilt my XR250 shock when I got it, big improvement and all I did was clean & reassemble w a new seal.

My 400R had reworked forks and shock, but I never got to take it out for a real ride before selling.

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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 10-25-2017, 11:36 AM   #83
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I'm sure you probably know, but there's tons of DIY stuff on XR 250 and 400 suspension on Thumpertalk. If you can stand to sift through it all, there may be a compatible swap, but I don't know of any.

I don't know about the 250, but the 400 has a pretty decent fork for enduro/trail riding, but it's not much for jumping. I found some info online about playing with the stock shims on the compression valves in the forks and it made a HUGE difference in the plushness IMO. Does the 250 shock have rebound issues, too?
I only have $173 into the bike and it runs great and looks good so I can't really complain. Even so, the suspension could be better. I don't go on that forum much but I suppose it's worth a look before I start buying stuff.
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I rebuilt my XR250 shock when I got it, big improvement and all I did was clean & reassemble w a new seal.

My 400R had reworked forks and shock, but I never got to take it out for a real ride before selling.
That's probably what I'll end up doing just because it's simple and cheap.
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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 10-25-2017, 12:19 PM   #84
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I'm not registered at TT, it just pops up on Google anytime I search anything other than street bikes lol.

I know the 250 had a totally different shock. It may not have the same problems as a 400, but it sounds like Seb would know more about that.
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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 10-26-2017, 01:10 PM   #85
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So, the Gold Valve isn't happening. Dealing with Racetech is a bit of a circus, so scratch that. The stock valve in the shock actually has huge ports, so a different valve isn't really necessary. Besides, you can always port your own valve to flow better. The only thing you gain by buying their kit is knowledge. I'm not sure it's worth $170 to buy their "correct" shim stack, so I think I'll just wing it.

The compression damping is fine, but the rebound damping is weak. I might just order some shims to firm up the rebound stacks and play with the valve tuning myself. I'll give me a fun project to fiddle with.

Shim stacks aren't rocket science. They're just leaf springs that block off your valve ports. Add or remove tension by juggling shim diameter and thickness of the stack/number of shims. Sounds easy enough... right??
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I can only speak of my experience with race tech gold valve kits. Bought one for the Dr supermoto, when you buy the kit you get access to their site to setup the shim stack for your needs.

All I could come up with was dirt orientated setups. Nothing supermoto specific. I placed a call to them and got a real person within minutes who over the phone setup a supermoto based shim stack for me and was happy to help me out and really patient with my questions.

The rear shock works flawlessly on the road and handles light trails off road with ease.


How many times do you want to pull the rear shock out of the bike, pull the rear shock apart, replace fluids, and recharge with nitrogen because you want to guess and check on shim stacks?

I say build the shock once with a gold valve. Call them up and go over your specific needs for the shock and they will get it right for you.

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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 10-26-2017, 09:30 PM   #87
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I went to RT's site and looked up the kit for my bike. It wasn't clickable and didn't have a price, it was just giving me a part number, but no way to order it. Check it out yoursself: 1988 Honda XR400R. The GV kit is the only part "available" for that bike that is not clickable.

So I called and talked to a guy there who took my order via phone. I gave him my PayPal address to send me an invoice and that was that. Next day, I get an email from a lady there telling me that they don't accept PayPal, only credit cards. Dafuq? I hate ordering via credit card over the phone, and I'm damn sure not gonna do it via email. Their site can't let me order it through the site, so fuck it.

Also, if you do a simple google search for XR400R Gold Valve you get a bunch of ads from different vendors. RT charges $170 for the kit, the vendors charge $132-139 typically. But it's a different part number than what the site will give you. When I asked the lady about it, she said the kit's are new for these bikes and that she doubts those vendors actually have kits for my bike. Mkay...

I do know that RT has a new version of the GV out now, and that is why there are two different part numbers, but they only give the newest version part number on their site.

That's why I'm gonna wing it. Probably. I might hit up one of the eBay vendors and verify their kits are supplying you with the one-time access code you need. But I don't mind winging anyway.
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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 10-26-2017, 11:32 PM   #88
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Found a dude on eBay selling one of the old part number xr400r kits. Shot him an offer for 90 bucks and he took it. Done deal.

Alright, F'dup...I spent money. You can go back in to hiding now
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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 10-31-2017, 12:00 AM   #89
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The Gold Valve kit came today. The jet that goes in the valve needs to be drilled to a certain size per application, so I have to buy a micro drill bit set now. That's not a huge deal, but the jet was missing in my kit I went ahead and used my access code to see what they're recommended setup is, and they are specifying more turns out on my rebound clicker than is available. Needless to say, I'm not blown away by RaceTech at the moment. Looking forward to another round of contradictory emails to come.

And Partzilla is taking their sweet time sending out the parts I ordered from them. They sat on the order for 4 business days before shipping it. At least I think they've shipped it? I got an email letting me know they took my money 4 days later, but no mention of tracking numbers it anything.

Finally, I wouldn't have had to order anything from Partzilla at all if AllBalls' complete fork bushing kit included all 8 of the bushings required instead of just the 4 that go in the sliders....Hey, AllBalls...the damper rod moves with the stanchions, ya know.

This ordering shit online is kinda...well, shit.

I just want my dirt bike back. I'm starting to get dangerously tempted to see what the FZ is capable of on dirt...
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I hate to be the guy to cause you further delays, but... don't use anything other than oem fork parts. Unless you enjoy being down for fork fixes, that is.

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