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so its off topic… but what guy doesn't love knives this is interesting too…. and relate it all by making carbon fiber handle
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how long do you need to maintain that? an oven is the best (and usually most expensive) way to keep things hot for long periods of time. i do all my heat treating in a propane forge and then quench in oil or water. if you want i can heat treat it for you.
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well, with the low carbon steel i have the carbon content would be too low for heat treating by itself to have any benefit so some type of carbon is going to have to be introduced (case hardening).

i may end up building a propane forge, did you build or buy yours?
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I just skimmed over the tech but it does look pretty simple from the pics and what little I did read. Maybe the 360 will see carbon
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Your pics are inspirational!

Are you going to trim down the ring of the gas cap, or is the carbon you used thin enough that it doesn't keep the cap from fitting?

If I did this, I would still wet sand/polish/clearcoat, just to really seal it up.

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Do you have to worry about a steel tank starting to rust under the the carbon wrap you did? If so, how would you fix it? Break the carbon fiber off the off?
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Do you have to worry about a steel tank starting to rust under the the carbon wrap you did? If so, how would you fix it? Break the carbon fiber off the off?
Im definitely no expert, but could you make it so the carbon fiber is like a casing. so it could slip on and off over the tank?

my rickman tank is just an ugly box with a fiberglass case slipped over the top. i imagine you could always built your own inner tank and then throw a carbon fiber case over the top in the same way.

but like i said before, I have no experience with it.
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well, with the low carbon steel i have the carbon content would be too low for heat treating by itself to have any benefit so some type of carbon is going to have to be introduced (case hardening).

i may end up building a propane forge, did you build or buy yours?
I see. I built my forge, but bought my burner. (two actually) i got a cheap one for $40 and then a nice one (that i have reverse engineered) for about $100. you can make them out of pipe fittings.

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Your pics are inspirational!

Are you going to trim down the ring of the gas cap, or is the carbon you used thin enough that it doesn't keep the cap from fitting?

If I did this, I would still wet sand/polish/clearcoat, just to really seal it up.
thanks! your work is quite the inspiration as well. spesifically the VFR build. makes me want a V4 so bad.

i wanted the carbon to conform to the lip of the gas cap area a bit better, but it resisted, and so i will have to trim it to fit. I am also going to sand down and clear-coat the tank. it will actually be getting some white, and then a green/blue pearl clearcoat.

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Do you have to worry about a steel tank starting to rust under the the carbon wrap you did? If so, how would you fix it? Break the carbon fiber off the off?
I made sure to prime the tank very well so as to seal it. if you were going to wrap the tank you would want to eliminate any rust, however since the resin is water-proof, i dont think that you would have to worry about moisture getting between it and the tank.

As for removing it.. your best bet would be to grind it off... it would be really hard to break it off.

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Im definitely no expert, but could you make it so the carbon fiber is like a casing. so it could slip on and off over the tank?

my rickman tank is just an ugly box with a fiberglass case slipped over the top. i imagine you could always built your own inner tank and then throw a carbon fiber case over the top in the same way.

but like i said before, I have no experience with it.
like you said, you have a dummy tank that fits over the actual gas tank, and yes, that is totally feasible in carbon fiber. you would just have to make sure that there was no draft on the part (like the knee areas on my tank) that would keep it from slipping off. I saw one build on here where a guy actually built magnest into the skin so that it would magnetically adhear to the steel tank. With a tank that has draft, you could slpit the cover down the middle to accomplish the same thing.


i also have more pictures!
the undertail is cured:


It came right off the waxed mold:


Weight comparison:
Steel 22 gauge

Carbon fiber 3 layers of carbon 3 of fiberglass


I still have some trimming and fitting to do


I also got started sanding the tank


more pictures soon!

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I guess the tank is good for the "Look" of carbon but adding a lot of resin actually makes the carbon fiber weaker. But I am sure your bike will come out looking nice.

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