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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 09-09-2015, 11:54 AM   #101
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I haven't seen a lot of mods to strengthen the RZV frame, but I've seen a few.



First, I'd like to weld 1" x 1" x 1/8" wall thickness square tubing onto the upper frame tubes, which are 2" x 1" square tubing.



I'm having difficulty finding the 1" x 1" x 1/8" wall square tubing with ROUNDED CORNERS. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it.



Second issue is bending the tubing into the same shape as the frame. I have some ideas, but will wait to see if the aluminum tubing can be found.

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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 09-09-2015, 01:29 PM   #102
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I'm not sure how much of a help this will be, but Bay Extrusions has (or had) a die for many sizes of square and rectangular tubing including many with round corners. Looks like they have a die for 1" x 1" x .125" wall x .188" corner radii. http://www.bayext.com/shapes/shape5a.htm

If they still have the die available, they will likely want you to run a 500# minimum order. Most foundries require 1000# minimums, and if they still have the die you save that cost.

In my years of making motorcycle frames I have never seen any AL tubing off-the-self with round corners so this might be your best bet.
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In my years of making motorcycle frames I have never seen any AL tubing off-the-self with round corners
Thanks for breaking it to me. Your info is always helpful. (I was going to ask you about my plans for bending the aluminum.)

Another idea is to machine the corners round. On structural type aluminum tubing, usually the inside of the corners are rounded and the outsides are square. I wonder how much radius could be machined without reducing the wall thickness very much. Maybe I could use a wall thickness greater than 1/8" - even though I don't want to.

Machining costs could be high, as well.

Not giving up on this plan, yet!
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Okay, wait - just found this!

This is probably custom made, like forkless is saying, but maybe there's hope. Says they have a "comprehensive inventory" and there's a part number.

http://eagle-aluminum.com/shop/tubin...adius-corners/
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It says "Stocked in 24′ lengths" so maybe it is ready to go!

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Kinda odd that they manufacture aluminum extrusions, but no where (that I can find) do they mention what alloy(s) they use.


As for bending, for my swingarms I've made custom dies to pre-dimple the inside of the bends, then bend in a form fixture using a press. For 1" square you might be able to get bending dies from Pro Tools depending on what CLR is needed to match the frame. I think 6"CLR is their largest radius for 1" square.

Just found this...http://www.8020.net/Quick-Frame-4.asp Look at #9000
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Kinda odd that they manufacture aluminum extrusions, but no where (that I can find) do they mention what alloy(s) they use.


As for bending, for my swingarms I've made custom dies to pre-dimple the inside of the bends, then bend in a form fixture using a press. For 1" square you might be able to get bending dies from Pro Tools depending on what CLR is needed to match the frame. I think 6"CLR is their largest radius for 1" square.

Just found this...http://www.8020.net/Quick-Frame-4.asp Look at #9000
I don't think there's any way I'll be able to bend the tubing properly. I need a pro for this.

It's been done before... I know it's possible!


That aluminum is .060" on the wall thickness. Looking for closer to .125". Also looking for unanodized stock.
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As for bending, for my swingarms I've made custom dies to pre-dimple the inside of the bends, then bend in a form fixture using a press. For 1" square you might be able to get bending dies from Pro Tools depending on what CLR is needed to match the frame. I think 6"CLR is their largest radius for 1" square.
I'll try to figure out the radius on the OEM frame tubes.

Do you modify existing dies, or do you make from scratch?

Hope I don't need a custom die for 1 bend on 2 tubes. The machine shop I use could probably make one, though.
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I don't think there's any way I'll be able to bend the tubing properly. I need a pro for this.

It's been done before... I know it's possible!

That aluminum is .060" on the wall thickness. Looking for closer to .125". Also looking for unanodized stock.
There are specialty bending shops that can bend just about any tubing with good results... of course cost can get very high. For 1" x 1" square should be very simple and not very expensive as that is a very common size.

Getting the anodize off is as easy as putting it on... just take to an anodize shop and tell them you want it stripped. This is very easy for them to do.

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I'll try to figure out the radius on the OEM frame tubes.

Do you modify existing dies, or do you make from scratch?

Hope I don't need a custom die for 1 bend on 2 tubes. The machine shop I use could probably make one, though.
My swingarms are made from a custom extrusion with a very unique profile, so I've had to make my own bending dies. They are also very thin (relative to the profile size) thus require the dimpling on the inside of the bend to control the crush.

Anyway, bending the 1 by 1 should be simple to do.
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Inspiration to modify my frame came from a Spondon RZ500 frame.





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