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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 05-20-2019, 10:10 AM   #1
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1: I got this single throttle cable setup. its perfect length and everything beside the very end of the cable itself. it only has a tiny tiny cable end. (don't know technical term for it)
how does one put on a proper cable end? those barrel shaped pieces that fit on the carb.

back in the day I heard you solder it on? *edit* so I see you can buy a screw on type,. anyone know what size for a kz?

2: I cant find a wire diagram for my bike....ik...theres allot out there. and I'm surprised theres none for what I'm asking.
its simple. but my brain doesn't comprehend wiring...

78 kz650 kick only. no battery(but need capacitor??) no key. has 2 separate coils.
right side of the engine has a 3 wire plug I think its oil/neutral. but don't need(just cut it at motor?)

does anyone have this diagram. kz650 bare bones. I guess the 77 had dif points or something so its not the same. I don't understand points/moto alternator yet
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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 05-20-2019, 07:22 PM   #2
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Question #1... Your throttle cable is most likely missing the brass barrel attachment. This may or may not up-set you, but most un-authorized Harley shops will have these items. Most Harley carbs require this attachment. Size = measure the hole on your throttle plate on your KZ Carb.

Question #2 Google simplified wiring diagrams. Should be one for bare bones wiring. ChopperCult might have links to what ya need. Kick only w/ capacitor back-up should be easy to find... if I can find the diagram, I'll post it.

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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 05-20-2019, 07:46 PM   #3
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I can tell you from experience that soldering an end on a cable almost only ever works if the cable is new and squeaky clean. You can clean the immortal shit out of an old cable and still struggle to get the solder to take.
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I can tell you from experience that soldering an end on a cable almost only ever works if the cable is new and squeaky clean. You can clean the immortal shit out of an old cable and still struggle to get the solder to take.
Never tried it, but I'd imagine it depends on the solder and if you're using flux or not. Have you experimented with different types?

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@rabies, look for a bicycle shop in your area. They'll build you a cable with whatever length and ends you want for cheap.

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Never tried it, but I'd imagine it depends on the solder and if you're using flux or not. Have you experimented with different types?
I have tried a few different things, even cleaning with muriatic acid. I think the issue is you can't get down inside the braid of the cable to truly clean it, so the solder can't wick in to anything it can grab.
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I have tried a few different things, even cleaning with muriatic acid. I think the issue is you can't get down inside the braid of the cable to truly clean it, so the solder can't wick in to anything it can grab.
That makes sense. I wonder if the wire stands would stand a bit higher heat level, braze it with silicon bronze... should stick better than solder if the wires will hold up.

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