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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 12-14-2019, 04:23 PM   #11211
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Looks like it's missing some kind of sliptream front fairing
Probly. Just noticed where the rear brake master is and I suppose those loops are where you're supposed to put the tips of your shoes in. Talk about a nutcracker, wouldn't wanna be in thet position for more than a mile at a time.

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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 12-14-2019, 10:15 PM   #11212
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"The worst bike I've ever owned" came out of my mouth on a daily basis whilst owning this 81 Moto Martin Z1000 (that gay looking dude holding it up cos the side stand was about to snap .... is me,the day before I sold it for £3500 ,we went to see Kevin Schantx fall off at the last corner on the last lap Le-man's GP500 round
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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 12-15-2019, 04:44 PM   #11213
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Should, the counter steering comes from sending the contact patch of the front tire to the outside of the corner to drop the center of gravity towards the inside of the corner.
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Any two wheeled single track vehicle that turns by leaning into corners is probably gonna counter steer. Hell, even most leaning reverse trikes (like the Niken) counter steer. It's just the quickest and most natural way to produce lean.

Hub center steering is really quite similar to a normal bike - the steering is (duh) just in the center of the hub, rather than high above the center.

Those trapezoidal linkage setup like on the OEC and (I think) the posted bike are a bit different in that the wheel moves a bit side to side when turned, but I don't think it makes any difference as far as "does it countersteer" goes. You'd have to offset the wheel a pretty large distance before THAT was the main mechanism leading to tilt, and if you tried to eliminate counter-steer and make it "point to steer" you'd end up with that mechanism having to overcome normal counter-steer effects. Easier just to design it so they both produce the same effect.

The smaller you can keep the link the wheel is mounted to, the less it moves side to side - the one in the pictures @hrdy posted actually seems designed to create a LARGE side to side movement, so it may be an effort to create faster turn in/ righting.
Yeah, turning the "wrong" direction will always produce the same effect. You guys are right.

I'm still confused by the suspension action on the bike. With how the pushrods/swingarm/fork a-arm are connected, it looks like any time one end compresses it's gonna force the other end to extend. Maybe suitable for a mph chaser, though. I'm sure weight is their primary concern.
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Old Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum Post 12-15-2019, 11:05 PM   #11214
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