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Welcome all to my build page...

This is my first bike/first time getting screwed over by craigslist/first fighter. Long story short, I ended up paying $1,400 for this bike and found out that it was crappily pieced together just to look decent enough to sell. So, I just said screw it and am "Fightering it out"!!!
Here's the link to my Picasa album with all my pictureshttp://picasaweb.google.com/101550461253933777663/Bike#

PS: Just throwing this out there, but I have pretty much zero mechanical knowledge

Basics - 08' Ninja 250
Here she is when I first got her


Front fender was being held on by 2 of the 6 bolts available... A theme i unfortunately found out carried throught the rest of the bike. Plastics were probably held together by 40% of the screw/nuts/fasteners




Seat supposedly flew off when the seller delivered it and found out the tank was dented to shit and the guy had tried to putty over the dent and painted it

5,2XX miles

No cover on the rear brake reservoir, so possibly air in the lines

Looks like something used to go in that bottom hole... Not sure what it was tho

Whole 2 piece tail fairing was held on by one little screw!



At this point I rode it for a bit and noticed a couple of issues:
Bike felt like it was pulling a little, possibly because the back wheel wasn't put in straight *pictures to come*
Throttle tube is a little sticky *heard just swapping the tube will fix it*
The exhaust smelt like it was running super rich *plan on rejetting and syncing after mods anyway*

So without much knowledge and relying soley on my want to get my bike on the road I decided to start stripping her down and worried about figuring everything else out as I go... So please don't flame me too hard if I ask a million questions or make an ass load of noob mistakes.
 

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$1400 isn't a bad price for a beat up $3500 bike. If it runs well then at least you don't have to worry about that.

I just picked up an 09 ex250 with front end damage for $2000. I bought it knowing I would be removing / cutting up the broken farings anyway so I guess I was less shocked than you were. The missing brake res cap is a trip. How does that happen???

Anyway, feel free to ask questions if you can't find the answers via searching. I'll be figuring out shit on the same model so hopefully I'll be able to help with little details, seeing as mine has all the bolts ;p

Bob
 

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Day 1 & 2 - Stripping her down

DAY 1
Stripping her down

After riding the bike for a bit, I started feeling uncomfortable with the way it was pulling and decided to start stripping her down.

Crappy front fender comes off

Strip off the front fairing? and headlight assembly. Notice the attempt to glass the broken part up top...Fail, hence the puddle of water that came out of it


Darkness soon fell upon me so I put her up for the night... I really do need to clean out my garage :(


DAY 2
Stripping her down pt. 2

Come home straight from work, cleared my schedule for the evening... Time to DW

Beginning of the day

Seller decides not to be a complete d!ck and brings by some extra parts he had laying around for the bike... Some of which I plan on using like the front tire and original rear sprocket

Got most of the plastics off and I'm starting to see her inner beauty


Exhaust and gauges come off


Here's the deal with the rear tire, reference the two pictures for the position of the markings on the swingarm and I think the tension? is off


Found a screw in the tire, so gotta get a new one of those. Will swap out the sprocket and even of tension? when I do that. Hopefully that fixes the "pulling" issue

Undertail & Battery removed... pretty much all I could do at that point for lack of tools and build vision





That was it for last night, I need to get a die grinder or something to start cleaning up the frame so I went inside to try and plan out my build.
 

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Looking forward to see what ya do with it, I don't think ya got to bad of a deal, most of that crap is cosmetic and useless anyways, as long as it runs good the rest is easy.
 

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Yeah, that rear tire is really out of sync in adjustment that would cause the pulling. That subframe is really small, ya can put just about any tail ya wanted on there. I bet it will be a fun bike to ride when ya get it all sorted.
 

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Don't think I'll be needing any of it. Mine is pristine from the tank back and I chopping the front up to look more like a Z1000, so I should be ok :)

Thanks for the offer though. It's funny that there hasn't really been a new gen ex250 build here yet and just when I finally get my grimey hands on you, you get one too.

Definitely save your plastics. Until you are done. You never know what you might need.

Bob
 

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I'm gonna post this under the help forum, but does anyone have ideas or experience with hooking up gauges for a bike with a cable speedo? I don't want to use the original ones.
 

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New speedo is just a matter of finding one from another bike that you like, twisting on the speedo cable, wiring in the other gauges and lights and accepting that the speed might be a little off.

I used the speedo from a suzuki gz250 for my ex500. It was actually pretty close to accurate too.

Bob
 

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That was one major fail of an attempt to put a trashed bike back together... wow. If the advertising was misleading I would have haggled the guy down upon delivery. I understand how it goes though getting your first bike, you just WANT IT no matter what.

That aside, looks like a good project, and lost of potential. I've got an 89 250 that is still going strong, great machines. A couple things: that empty hole on the front brake capiler is the other mounting bolt for the caliper. You WILL need that to ride the bike :)

That front rim/disc is not stock. Looks like he replaced it with one off an EX500, which is also a 17" rim, and I have no idea if its a direct swap or not. Might want to double check things like spacing, axle size, and caliper alignment. Just to be sure.

As was stated, a little rear axle adjusting should straighten out that pulling pretty easy.

That rear brake resiviour, Unless the bike turned upside down and you lost fluid out of the master cylinder you should be ok. A new cap won't cost you much from the dealer, or eaby for a whole new resiviour.

As for a vision, I would put the stock tail back on (with all the right hardware of course), and find a headlight you like (lots of possiblities there), bar end mirrors, and a siple set of Veypor gauges, make a paintball CO2 can coolant overflow, and call it a day.
Actually I would put clipons on it too. Woodcraft makes expencive clipons, but if you measure your forks and just google or search ebay for say "35mm clipons" (if thats the size).
 

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I was able to find "cafe style clipons" for my 89 250 for about $60. I found them randomly at a local shop and have never been able to find them since.
 

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Not bad looking, really...

You did get a title with it, right? I'd be checking numbers, for sure... barring anything illegal, wow. The PO was most likely a friggin squid with little regard for proper riding technique.

In any event, seems like she's better off in your hands anyway. Good luck w/ the build and welcome to CF. There's no turning back now. ;)
 

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Day 3 - The point in which my build progession surpasses my mechanical knowledge

Day 3
More Dis assembly

So, thanks for all the info. Between the forums and actually DW, I'm actually beginning to learn alot. Even though my brain seems like it's running in a million directions. I have a general build vision in my head but we'll see how that translates to real steel.

While I was working today I got that feeling that something still isn't right up front. Thanks Candyman for that info on the front wheel. That may be what's causing it, but it seems like the bars aren't straight. Like remember when you were a kid and your handle bar bracket would loosen and your bars would get crooked? Kinda feels a little like that, it just doesn't feel right.

Anywho, time for pics!!!

Ripped out the monstrous factory air box, Pain In The Ass to do, gonna throw on a K&N 0990 Filter. Do I need to put any "outerwear" on it?


Next dropped the coolant reservoir tank and headers. Gonna go with a custom reservoir can and either a GP style exhaust or a CF shorty can.

Also pulled the whole rear brake assembly. Plan on painting the Calipers anyway.


Here is my PoS fuel tank. The seller tried to putty the dent and then paint over it!


So this is how she stands now.



I kind of want to drop the engine out so I can paint it, clean up the frame, then either paint or powder coat the frame. I have really big plans of what I want to do with the bike... But really just wanna get her back out on the road ASAP.

As of now I definitely need the following:
Tank
Front seat
Exhaust
Air Filter
Kleen air mod
Jet kit & Sync
Coolant bottle
Gauges
Some kind of headlights
Front fender
New tires
Thinking about a black and gold accent paint scheme, but it almost seems like everyone is doing it

Future plans would be:
Dirty bars w/ a circular mirror attached to the right side
New levers and grips
Glassed one piece tail similar to stock body lines
All SS lines for breaks and coolant bottle
All extra tabs shaved off frame
Homemade battery so box would have room for trimmed down wire harness
Painted engine and radiator
Painted and cleaned triples
ZX6R rear shock
Frame and Swingarm sliders
Integrated taillight

I think I may just try to get her as road ready as possible, then pretty much rip her apart and rebuild her like I reallly want her to be done over the winter. Hopefully by then i'll actually have some of the right tools and garage room to really DW!
 

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Diggin right in there man, kudos. Have a look for EMGO filters while you have the air box out of there. They only cost about $10 each, then $10 worth of jets and she should give you an extra pony or two, and open up the area behind the carbs nicely.
 
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that is the tiniest frame i have ever seen on a bike. and that exhaust is so spindly!! love it. wrap the headers to beef them up a little.
you know what i'd do with that bike, just looking at the frame? find something like a cb200 tank to really show off that little engine and do a serious minimalistic tail. looking like a good start though!
 

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Hot damn that bike's been abused. Looks like you're diving in & figuring it out man, do 'er right!
 
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