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Awesome progress! I like these baby CBR's!
2012 CBR250R "DaFuq?!" (TocTuning)
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Looks real nice with that smaller tank cover and dirt track tail on there and the undertail exhaust is a nice touch too. It's been a while since I've taken a look at this bike and it looks like progress is being made 
Going to the dealer on Wednesday, seriously thinking about pulling the trigger on a new cb500x. My riding these days is short urban commuting and two-up in the mountains where my '98 900rr just can't stretch its legs, and the right gear is about first-point-5. The day this weekend was cut short by uncomfortable rear seat and heat off the engine, man it's hot out in southern Spain.But it isn't a single. I do want a CBR500 badly though. Always gonna have a soft spot for a parallel twin.
The roads round here are awesome but also in part badly surfaced, so long forks seems sensible. Plus fuel in Gibraltar where I live is currently about £1.10/litre while cross into Spain where the mountains are and it's more like 1.5€ (about 20% difference in the pocket), so if I can fill up 17l at around 3.8l/100km (75 uk mpg) and get a 400km (250mile) day out on cheap fuel then I'm for that.
Fireblades are still cool, just not for me, not right now.
Ps- that's a lot of units in one paragraph!
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I was just looking at the cbr500r online after seeing one out on the street. Haven't been keeping up with new bikes lately and was blown away to see a claimed 71mpg?!?!!?!? How the fuk? My last ride was a 2010 ex250 and I could barely squeeze 50mpg out of that, though I had to flog it to ride it. My XB9s gets 50mpg+ consistently though.
I'm guessing that there is some sweet spot in displacement vrs weight vrs average speed thing. Then add in EFI for perfect fuel delivery.
HMMMMMMMMMMMM. I wonder if I could steal the FI system from a cbr500r and run it on my ex500 with a little modification?
Oh and finally, and sorry for all the derailment here. Found this on the honda site: "Honda twins are famous for their versatility, and the new CBR500R engine is one of our best ever. Using the same piston bore size as our CBR600RR sportbike, the parallel-twin engine offers accessible performance across all RPM ranges."
I wonder if it's literally half a CBR600rr with increased stroke? That's kinda how kawasaki made the ex500.
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Ever since this pic found its way onto the internet I've been in love.
Is it 71 US mpg or 71 imperial mpg? You can check out real-life rather than corporate BS claims on sites like Fuelly, beware it shows UK mpg, which is a different figure as you lot have 473ml in a pint and we have 568ml in a pint. This also means that if an American knows he can drink 8 pints before he falls over, if he tries that in UK he will have drunk about 9.5, and fall over
IDK if it will convert to US measurements if you log in from the US.
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Huh. I knew this intellectually but didn't put it together.you lot have 473ml in a pint and we have 568ml in a pint. This also means that if an American knows he can drink 8 pints before he falls over, if he tries that in UK he will have drunk about 9.5, and fall over
I wonder if InBev is importing 568ml cans of this Boddingtons I've been drinking... or if it's being canned for export in 473ml cans... I don't think they're getting me drunker than normal
A bit of googling later? They're 16oz pint cans, or 473ml
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It's a 'pounder'. Because it weighs a pound.Huh. I knew this intellectually but didn't put it together.
I wonder if InBev is importing 568ml cans of this Boddingtons I've been drinking... or if it's being canned for export in 473ml cans... I don't think they're getting me drunker than normal
A bit of googling later? They're 16oz pint cans, or 473ml
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I'm not 100% sure about the cbr500r figures but my experience with the ex250 and the XB9s are using US gallons and US miles.Is it 71 US mpg or 71 imperial mpg? You can check out real-life rather than corporate BS claims on sites like Fuelly, beware it shows UK mpg, which is a different figure as you lot have 473ml in a pint and we have 568ml in a pint. This also means that if an American knows he can drink 8 pints before he falls over, if he tries that in UK he will have drunk about 9.5, and fall over
IDK if it will convert to US measurements if you log in from the US.
Are your UK miles longer too ;p
Oh and what is more important is pints over time. I can drink beer all day and not get wrecked, probably spend half that day pissing but either way. Hard alch is where I typically get bent over. First drink a bit strong so I can get a buzz rolling, second drink reasonable, following drinks made while intoxicated get stronger and so on. And all that usually somehow happens within an hour, and I wake up somewhere strange.
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71 miles per gallon sounds like moped territory, goddamn technology is awesome.
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In an attempt to steer this thread back in the direction it was going in to begin with, I've got a neat little story. As DaFuq? managed to progress into a shorty tail tracker my brother happened across a bike company that was out of Italy, soon after he showed me Zaeta motorcycles bike exif picked up a story on them, and sooner than later most people in the industry were aware of the existence of a factory flat tracker built by a rider, for riders. Pretty cool, huh?
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Great minds!
My brother TocTuning has since had a picture of that Zaeta on the wall of his room, been watching as development continued on it and has been impressed by the sheer similarity of his build and Mr. Belli's, "Zaeta".
Fast forward to Pikes Peak International Hill Climb Competition 2013...
Toc is walking through the pit section checking out the bikes and runs into none other than Marco Belli himself! The two of them exchanged introductions and proceeded to stand around smoking cigarettes in a non smoking area, cursing, and discussing the finer points of building motorcycles from a pure riders standpoint.
TocTuning is involved in some big stuff. Stay tuned. The "DaFuq?" build is gonna get pretty interesting really soon! Just waiting on the tank to be finished and it is back to business as usual building one of the finest flat tracker variant's you will ever see come from a small shop in the midwest!
Great minds!
My brother TocTuning has since had a picture of that Zaeta on the wall of his room, been watching as development continued on it and has been impressed by the sheer similarity of his build and Mr. Belli's, "Zaeta".
Fast forward to Pikes Peak International Hill Climb Competition 2013...
Toc is walking through the pit section checking out the bikes and runs into none other than Marco Belli himself! The two of them exchanged introductions and proceeded to stand around smoking cigarettes in a non smoking area, cursing, and discussing the finer points of building motorcycles from a pure riders standpoint.
TocTuning is involved in some big stuff. Stay tuned. The "DaFuq?" build is gonna get pretty interesting really soon! Just waiting on the tank to be finished and it is back to business as usual building one of the finest flat tracker variant's you will ever see come from a small shop in the midwest!
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Amazing can't wait for this I've only been waiting for 1 year and 18 pages
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1 year and 18 pages have spanned 3 residencies, 3 deaths of close family, 2 job changes, a fighter fest, a house purchase that split tools between two shops, an ice racing season, 5 crashes, and 6 months of planning and configuring parts to fit on a very limited amount of real estate.
Can't rush greatness. But you can crash it shortly after finishing it.
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Is that a billet swingarm and frame? I'd love to hear how/why that is a better way to do it than just make it out of tube like it normally would be.the existence of a factory flat tracker built by a rider, for riders. Pretty cool, huh?
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With tube it tends to deform and bend at places you don't want it to, thus resulting in gussets and bracing that adds weight in a big way. Machined billet parts allow you to engineer flex points into the overall of the bike and effectively develop a bike that uses the engine as a stressed member rather than the conventional cradle type frame.
That bike was developed after this one:
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I love the rear suspension on it. It looks so cool at that angle stuffed up under the seat
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What good is a custom build if you don't swap out the wheels for something bigger? :knucks:
Been machining a ton of stuff for Toc lately... seems he is getting closer and closer to the finishing work that needs to be done on this bike before it's on to the next one.
Been machining a ton of stuff for Toc lately... seems he is getting closer and closer to the finishing work that needs to be done on this bike before it's on to the next one.
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Fuck all I missed alot... on my own thread!
Talkin' to Marco was a really cool experience due to his matter of fact attitude and lack of giving a fuck for Colorado's rules on smoking. Lots of details of that bike is unknown or not mentioned to the mags that have done articles on it/him. I will tell you that both legs of the swingarm bolt on and are adjustable up close to the pivot, something like 2.5 inches of adjustment. Now there is a very hidden full cradle that comes under the motor to strengthen the frame. Hes got new custom made adjustable triples. and now its on 17s. and oh yeah... its a headshake monster!
I believe ratty has the pics on his computer from ppihc with close ups of the zeata 530.
On the other hand the babyblade is coming along, sadly the progress is that of a snail but new thing keep coming up.
I've gotta finish the kdx supermoto for mwff13 so thats top project now.
I do have half the tank cut and bent but still have to finish that and find money to have it welded along with putting together more cash to have Marco make and send me a gas cap assembly just like the one on his zeata. Its so neat and clean I just have to.
The ninja wheels are going to be great but I need to source some new forks for the bike that can fit the front wheel.
ok I'm running out of thoughts so here are some pics.
some of the harness is re routed, might have to remove the pins from the connectors like said to shrink it all.
rear wheel clearance. might need to come down a little more or a offset sprocket.
other side uses the factory cbr affair.
gauge cluster with the factory forks, who knows now?
Talkin' to Marco was a really cool experience due to his matter of fact attitude and lack of giving a fuck for Colorado's rules on smoking. Lots of details of that bike is unknown or not mentioned to the mags that have done articles on it/him. I will tell you that both legs of the swingarm bolt on and are adjustable up close to the pivot, something like 2.5 inches of adjustment. Now there is a very hidden full cradle that comes under the motor to strengthen the frame. Hes got new custom made adjustable triples. and now its on 17s. and oh yeah... its a headshake monster!
I believe ratty has the pics on his computer from ppihc with close ups of the zeata 530.
On the other hand the babyblade is coming along, sadly the progress is that of a snail but new thing keep coming up.
I've gotta finish the kdx supermoto for mwff13 so thats top project now.
I do have half the tank cut and bent but still have to finish that and find money to have it welded along with putting together more cash to have Marco make and send me a gas cap assembly just like the one on his zeata. Its so neat and clean I just have to.
The ninja wheels are going to be great but I need to source some new forks for the bike that can fit the front wheel.
ok I'm running out of thoughts so here are some pics.
some of the harness is re routed, might have to remove the pins from the connectors like said to shrink it all.
rear wheel clearance. might need to come down a little more or a offset sprocket.
other side uses the factory cbr affair.
gauge cluster with the factory forks, who knows now?
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