Ok Guys With Chris and Adams permition (PLease) I want to build a bike using this site and its members input. I need some help in the right direction.
As you know I love to race. My new project bike is for the Chinese Super Bike Series (CSBK) next year. I am going to give it a go. I can only race in three of the 6 races because I am a foreigner so the pressure is on to finish and do well in just three races to prove who is top dog here of the foreigners.
Project bike will be built by Spyder. Reason being its an FZR based bike and Spyder and myself already are working on a few other project bikes so he was already there on hand. B Miller has been an enormous help as has Adam and Scrap yard and Healo too, to name but a few.
So I wanted to start this thread to follow this race bikes build. It will be the last race bike I will build for myself. Not like I might retires soon or anything but I just want to have one bike that is built to my exact specs and just keep and tune it myself and learn the bike inside and out.
Like I said it’s a 600cc series and I am up against almost exclusively R-6 Yamahas For some reason they dominate the field over here in China.
So here is the build and what our plans are. I wrote this so Spyder and I can see where we were heading t begin with also if we get too far off track.
FZR-400 frame (1988)
FZR-600 engine with a YZF top end – strokes it to ahhhh a little more than 600cc he he he
R-1 Front end (2003)
R-6 race solo seat with a lightweight aluminum sub frame
Advance the ignition on the engine
Get a shift kit to make her shift better and help not hit that damned false neutral
Carbs Not sure yet.
636 Radiator
GDG rear sets
TZR-4.5 inch rim (Got an idea for a cheap 4.75 or 5” rim let me know. I could not find a 1999 GSXR 1100 wheel any where which is what I wanted to use.
But I can get a 150 on there with a nice profile or a 160 with a bit of a pinch but still real nice to use on slicks where they stick oh so fine.
Header and maybe my shorty race slip on but a V& H system I think is what Spyder has in mind.
Oh, so here is where I need help right now.
I am a firm believer in making the insides of the engine smooth and polished up for better flow and less friction.
So with that said I need to find a place to do the following and more if you guys have better Ideas but a minimum is this
Lighten and balance the crank polish it up.
Polish all the internal parts that safely can be
Get some good aftermarket pistons and rings that will hold up to racing I am working on my Weisco friend now t see if he can suggest what pistons to use. He is a tech with them and knows what’s what.
Port and polish a 5 or 7 angle valve job what’s best with what we are doing?
Spyder can take over the technical engine issues and questions on this thread and you can talk to him if you wish direct as he is building and I have no clue what’s what in side an engine to be honest. Not like he does anyway.
So for one stop shopping to polish things up and also under cut the gears a bit maybe your thoughts?
I only plan to race this thing like I said so a stripped wire harness as well as a custom dash and custom sub frame out of aluminum. I pant to constantly work on this thing despite how good or bad I do I want to keep this thing and just keep making it better as a carbbed four stroke. One day soon it will be a museum piece anyway ha ha.
Eventually I plan to put on some custom wheels but I am still working on that semi sponsored deal.
When I can afford it I will get wavy rotors or upgrade the brakes even more or the engine what ever time and money allows.
So how about a team CF brain trust her and help me and Spyder with what’s the best way to make this thing as fire breathing monster of a bike. Lie said we have a plan already about formed.
But if I ever get in the winners circle which means top 3 they will make me remove my heads to check and see if I have larger than 600cc. I am not sure they get the whole stroking it concept just yet over there.
As far as beating and injection machine like an R-6 I am not afraid of them plain and simple. If they can do it I can do it and on that lightweight frame with a stroked 600 I should be killing them in the corners like GP bike would. If not, then shame on me.
OK guys give me your thoughts other than I wrote a frigin book of an intro to this project ha ha ha
And if your wondering why not just get a R-6? Fuck that! Where’s the challenge in that, I ask you?
THIS IS THE BIKE IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE MYLAST RACE
Is now in pieces goign out for repair work or polishing or something. but its a basket case right now.
As you know I love to race. My new project bike is for the Chinese Super Bike Series (CSBK) next year. I am going to give it a go. I can only race in three of the 6 races because I am a foreigner so the pressure is on to finish and do well in just three races to prove who is top dog here of the foreigners.
Project bike will be built by Spyder. Reason being its an FZR based bike and Spyder and myself already are working on a few other project bikes so he was already there on hand. B Miller has been an enormous help as has Adam and Scrap yard and Healo too, to name but a few.
So I wanted to start this thread to follow this race bikes build. It will be the last race bike I will build for myself. Not like I might retires soon or anything but I just want to have one bike that is built to my exact specs and just keep and tune it myself and learn the bike inside and out.
Like I said it’s a 600cc series and I am up against almost exclusively R-6 Yamahas For some reason they dominate the field over here in China.
So here is the build and what our plans are. I wrote this so Spyder and I can see where we were heading t begin with also if we get too far off track.
FZR-400 frame (1988)
FZR-600 engine with a YZF top end – strokes it to ahhhh a little more than 600cc he he he
R-1 Front end (2003)
R-6 race solo seat with a lightweight aluminum sub frame
Advance the ignition on the engine
Get a shift kit to make her shift better and help not hit that damned false neutral
Carbs Not sure yet.
636 Radiator
GDG rear sets
TZR-4.5 inch rim (Got an idea for a cheap 4.75 or 5” rim let me know. I could not find a 1999 GSXR 1100 wheel any where which is what I wanted to use.
But I can get a 150 on there with a nice profile or a 160 with a bit of a pinch but still real nice to use on slicks where they stick oh so fine.
Header and maybe my shorty race slip on but a V& H system I think is what Spyder has in mind.
Oh, so here is where I need help right now.
I am a firm believer in making the insides of the engine smooth and polished up for better flow and less friction.
So with that said I need to find a place to do the following and more if you guys have better Ideas but a minimum is this
Lighten and balance the crank polish it up.
Polish all the internal parts that safely can be
Get some good aftermarket pistons and rings that will hold up to racing I am working on my Weisco friend now t see if he can suggest what pistons to use. He is a tech with them and knows what’s what.
Port and polish a 5 or 7 angle valve job what’s best with what we are doing?
Spyder can take over the technical engine issues and questions on this thread and you can talk to him if you wish direct as he is building and I have no clue what’s what in side an engine to be honest. Not like he does anyway.
So for one stop shopping to polish things up and also under cut the gears a bit maybe your thoughts?
I only plan to race this thing like I said so a stripped wire harness as well as a custom dash and custom sub frame out of aluminum. I pant to constantly work on this thing despite how good or bad I do I want to keep this thing and just keep making it better as a carbbed four stroke. One day soon it will be a museum piece anyway ha ha.
Eventually I plan to put on some custom wheels but I am still working on that semi sponsored deal.
When I can afford it I will get wavy rotors or upgrade the brakes even more or the engine what ever time and money allows.
So how about a team CF brain trust her and help me and Spyder with what’s the best way to make this thing as fire breathing monster of a bike. Lie said we have a plan already about formed.
But if I ever get in the winners circle which means top 3 they will make me remove my heads to check and see if I have larger than 600cc. I am not sure they get the whole stroking it concept just yet over there.
As far as beating and injection machine like an R-6 I am not afraid of them plain and simple. If they can do it I can do it and on that lightweight frame with a stroked 600 I should be killing them in the corners like GP bike would. If not, then shame on me.
OK guys give me your thoughts other than I wrote a frigin book of an intro to this project ha ha ha
And if your wondering why not just get a R-6? Fuck that! Where’s the challenge in that, I ask you?
THIS IS THE BIKE IN ITS ORIGINAL FORM
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE MYLAST RACE
Is now in pieces goign out for repair work or polishing or something. but its a basket case right now.