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· lɐʇuǝɯᴉɹǝdx&#4
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If EBR made a bike that matched the fz09 on specs, price, style, and maintenace... oh baby. They would be rolling in it. Well, as much of it as motorcycle sales allow.

What's this about Polaris? I thought the buyer was some New Jersey dude who makes metal fixtures?
 

· sickboy
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Man, Belfer got a pretty smoking deal. Hero paid $25million for their 49% stake in ebr just like 18 months ago or so and ebr went bankrupt just like that and Belfer swoops in and pays only $2.25 million for it. Hero lost a big ass chunk of change on that.

 

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Nothing, prior to the news I was just speculating Polaris would be a good candidate to buy the company, since they seem to have been on a roll buying up smaller companies, licensing tech, and designs to expand their product line.

The 09 is a great bike and it's obviously been a home run for yamaha. Still there's room for improvement, and other manufacturers can learn from it. It's proven that people want to buy a stripped down, sporty bike for a reasonable price.
 

· lɐʇuǝɯᴉɹǝdx&#4
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Ah, bummer. I was hoping with the project 156 thing and such, they might get into sportbikes. They do have the Empulse, and mixing EBR up in electric bikes seems like it could bring good things....
 

· Vtwin
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I was just really glad to hear EBR is at it again:)

Now give me a fooking bike I can afford! My XB is getting lonely
 

· CAPTAIN AWESOME®
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Top candidates (speculated) were KTM and Polaris. But i think after this GasGas debacle, KTM may be a bit gun shy on the acquisitions side. After their dealing with Husqvarna, it's probably not too far fetched

Polaris/Victory would have been a great fit, but they have such hit and miss market decisions it may have been a doomed venture
 

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If EBR made a bike that matched the fz09 on specs, price, style, and maintenace... oh baby. They would be rolling in it. Well, as much of it as motorcycle sales allow.

What's this about Polaris? I thought the buyer was some New Jersey dude who makes metal fixtures?
The reason the MT09 is so good is the motor. Hard to make a vtwin as good as the yamaha triple.
 

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Someone needs to make the bike that the new Vmax should have been. In 2007 when the "gen1" was discontinued after 22 years, rumors were swirling about what the new Vmax would be, concept drawings were floating around showing a sporty naked V4 bike and everyone had their panties in a wad for it.

Then it came out, and it was a 700lb, $20k, uhhh, "super cruiser"? I demo'd one and it was way too much like it's predecessor, but in a bad way. Massively heavy. Still didn't handle or stop with any composure. Gets 25mpg (with conservative riding), still has a puny gas tank so you need to put gas in it every 70-80 miles. The 1700 v4 Yamaha made is absolutely brutal- I've driven bikes with as much power as it, and bikes with as much torque, but not both. Nothing I've ridden accelerates as immediately and as violently as it does. I'm sure the current supersports could beat it on the strip, but just the kick in the ass it delivers it unreal. It feels like your face is going to come off if you snap it to the stop at around 6 grand. And being a v4, sounds amazing, especially with it's intake noise and slight whine from the gear driven cams sounding like a supercharger. But ultimately I was disappointed- it's a one trick pony just like the bike it replaced. Other than straight line stupid grins, it's not good for much else. Coupled with the enormous price and I wrote it off immediately when I went bike shopping last year.

Always been a fan of V4s, hope something appealing returns with one. Without a whole lot of Italian difficulties or Honda blandness. V engines have that character you just don't get from an inline, no matter how fast it might be.
 

· Big Buelly
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When Buell closed its doors I was very disappointed but then came EBR and I was super excited. But then I found out the price and I was disappointed again. I was hoping that in the future they would have a not "affordable" bike.....then EBR closed its doors. I thought that was it.....game over.
But EBR now has a new owner! I wish Bruce Belfer the best of luck and I look forward to what's in store for the American sport bike.

http://m.jsonline.com/business/new-...iness-in-east-troy-b99552788z1-321103341.html
 

· UnicycleMode
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Best of luck and all that. After the changing of hands and the way things have gone I'll be more confident in expectation of success when they have a few years established and are going strong again. I've got my opinion on the matter but it's not a popular one. It's a niche market for sure (Buell and EBR bikes), and the more expensive and exotic the bikes get (EBR for example), the less consumers I see buying them up. Just go racing and sell a few for the sake of it. No need to try to be the next great motorcycle company.




The story of every "American" vehicle manufacturer in the past two decades:

 

· Vtwin
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Best of luck and all that. After the changing of hands and the way things have gone I'll be more confident in expectation of success when they have a few years established and are going strong again. I've got my opinion on the matter but it's not a popular one. It's a niche market for sure (Buell and EBR bikes), and the more expensive and exotic the bikes get (EBR for example), the less consumers I see buying them up. Just go racing and sell a few for the sake of it. No need to try to be the next great motorcycle company.









The story of every "American" vehicle manufacturer in the past two decades:




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