EBR!......The Thunder Returns!....

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Whiplash

Discussion Starter · Oct 23, 2013

I'm so pumped right now, it's so F'ing awesome to see buells returning to the production scene....

Behold! The new RX1190! And it's predecessor the 1190RS

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There are also 2 future bikes in the oven....

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The SX is rumored to be a StreetFighter much like the XB and the AX is rumored to be a Ulysses variant....I'm haveing trouble finding any info on then but I'll keep digging, I can't wait to see them!!!

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DrJellyFingers

· #41 · Aug 8, 2015

Sounds like u should just buy an fz09.

sebwiers

· #42 · Aug 8, 2015

If EBR made a bike that matched the fz09 on specs, price, style, and maintenace... oh baby. They would be rolling in it. Well, as much of it as motorcycle sales allow.

What's this about Polaris? I thought the buyer was some New Jersey dude who makes metal fixtures?

rubbersdown

· #43 · Aug 8, 2015

Man, Belfer got a pretty smoking deal. Hero paid $25million for their 49% stake in ebr just like 18 months ago or so and ebr went bankrupt just like that and Belfer swoops in and pays only $2.25 million for it. Hero lost a big ass chunk of change on that.

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RaZed1

· #44 · Aug 9, 2015

Nothing, prior to the news I was just speculating Polaris would be a good candidate to buy the company, since they seem to have been on a roll buying up smaller companies, licensing tech, and designs to expand their product line.

The 09 is a great bike and it's obviously been a home run for yamaha. Still there's room for improvement, and other manufacturers can learn from it. It's proven that people want to buy a stripped down, sporty bike for a reasonable price.

sebwiers

· #45 · Aug 9, 2015

Ah, bummer. I was hoping with the project 156 thing and such, they might get into sportbikes. They do have the Empulse, and mixing EBR up in electric bikes seems like it could bring good things....

Whiplash

Discussion Starter · #46 · Aug 10, 2015

I was just really glad to hear EBR is at it again

Now give me a fooking bike I can afford! My XB is getting lonely

CK 187

· #47 · Aug 10, 2015

Top candidates (speculated) were KTM and Polaris. But i think after this GasGas debacle, KTM may be a bit gun shy on the acquisitions side. After their dealing with Husqvarna, it's probably not too far fetched

Polaris/Victory would have been a great fit, but they have such hit and miss market decisions it may have been a doomed venture

CK 187

· #48 · Aug 10, 2015

Hopefully Belfar can take some guidance from Fred Fox that owns Parts Unlimited and bring this phoenix out of the ashes

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keef

· #49 · Aug 11, 2015

sebwiers said:
If EBR made a bike that matched the fz09 on specs, price, style, and maintenace... oh baby. They would be rolling in it. Well, as much of it as motorcycle sales allow.

What's this about Polaris? I thought the buyer was some New Jersey dude who makes metal fixtures?

The reason the MT09 is so good is the motor. Hard to make a vtwin as good as the yamaha triple.

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Whiplash

Discussion Starter · #50 · Aug 11, 2015

keef said:
The reason the MT09 is so good is the motor. Hard to make a vtwin as good as the yamaha triple.

RC51?

keef

· #51 · Aug 11, 2015

Whiplash said:
RC51?

The rc51 has about 20 more horsepower, but it's dry weight is 7kgs higher than the MT09's wet weight. It was a heavy bike, not sure how much of that was motor and radiators, etc.

sebwiers

· #52 · Aug 11, 2015

I don't think EB is philosophically opposed to a tripple (or any other engine). EBR just happens to have tooling for a frame that holds a v twin.

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CK 187

· #53 · Aug 11, 2015

sebwiers said:
I don't think EB is philosophically opposed to a tripple (or any other engine). EBR just happens to have tooling for a frame that holds a v twin.

The 1125 concept could have very easily been a V4

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sebwiers

· #54 · Aug 11, 2015

Yes please!

RaZed1

· #55 · Aug 11, 2015

Someone needs to make the bike that the new Vmax should have been. In 2007 when the "gen1" was discontinued after 22 years, rumors were swirling about what the new Vmax would be, concept drawings were floating around showing a sporty naked V4 bike and everyone had their panties in a wad for it.

Then it came out, and it was a 700lb, $20k, uhhh, "super cruiser"? I demo'd one and it was way too much like it's predecessor, but in a bad way. Massively heavy. Still didn't handle or stop with any composure. Gets 25mpg (with conservative riding), still has a puny gas tank so you need to put gas in it every 70-80 miles. The 1700 v4 Yamaha made is absolutely brutal- I've driven bikes with as much power as it, and bikes with as much torque, but not both. Nothing I've ridden accelerates as immediately and as violently as it does. I'm sure the current supersports could beat it on the strip, but just the kick in the ass it delivers it unreal. It feels like your face is going to come off if you snap it to the stop at around 6 grand. And being a v4, sounds amazing, especially with it's intake noise and slight whine from the gear driven cams sounding like a supercharger. But ultimately I was disappointed- it's a one trick pony just like the bike it replaced. Other than straight line stupid grins, it's not good for much else. Coupled with the enormous price and I wrote it off immediately when I went bike shopping last year.

Always been a fan of V4s, hope something appealing returns with one. Without a whole lot of Italian difficulties or Honda blandness. V engines have that character you just don't get from an inline, no matter how fast it might be.

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Ant

· #56 · Aug 13, 2015

When Buell closed its doors I was very disappointed but then came EBR and I was super excited. But then I found out the price and I was disappointed again. I was hoping that in the future they would have a not "affordable" bike.....then EBR closed its doors. I thought that was it.....game over.
But EBR now has a new owner! I wish Bruce Belfer the best of luck and I look forward to what's in store for the American sport bike.

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RatFighter

· #57 · Aug 14, 2015

Best of luck and all that. After the changing of hands and the way things have gone I'll be more confident in expectation of success when they have a few years established and are going strong again. I've got my opinion on the matter but it's not a popular one. It's a niche market for sure (Buell and EBR bikes), and the more expensive and exotic the bikes get (EBR for example), the less consumers I see buying them up. Just go racing and sell a few for the sake of it. No need to try to be the next great motorcycle company.

The story of every "American" vehicle manufacturer in the past two decades:

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Ant

· #58 · Aug 14, 2015

RatFighter said:
The story of every "American" vehicle manufacturer in the past two decades:

Yeah, it is what it is. I guess I've just always like to root for the underdog......especially the American owned underdogs.

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Whiplash

Discussion Starter · #59 · Aug 14, 2015

RatFighter said:
Best of luck and all that. After the changing of hands and the way things have gone I'll be more confident in expectation of success when they have a few years established and are going strong again. I've got my opinion on the matter but it's not a popular one. It's a niche market for sure (Buell and EBR bikes), and the more expensive and exotic the bikes get (EBR for example), the less consumers I see buying them up. Just go racing and sell a few for the sake of it. No need to try to be the next great motorcycle company.

The story of every "American" vehicle manufacturer in the past two decades:

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