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Rollin hard in Wiscompton
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Alright, drop your socks and grab your cocks, I got another old bike to lust over!

Saw a bike on Facebook marketplace, dirt ass cheap, made a trade offer for some stuff I had laying around, guy actually bit on it. Took a while to meet up, as he was heavily delayed at the shop getting his car worked on, but well worth the wait.

Came home with this! 1983 Suzuki GR650D Tempter. Key, title, everything but the left side panel.

Advertised as needing air filter, battery, tires, and a carb clean.
 

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So first thing was to do a walkaround, check it all out, and get an assessment.

Had a nest under the seat. Lots of sunflower seeds from a bird feeder sitting in the tool tray under the seat, and in the airbox the filter frame is missing along with the filter, and there was a full on nest.

Needs a battery

Taillight base is broken on one side

Cam cover has rtv smeared all around the outisde edge

Left side panel missing

Right fork leg appears to have a seal leak

Front fender is banged up

Seat is split between front and rear, foam is degraded

Pre-load knob on rear shock is missing

Handlebars slightly bent

Tank looks like a layer of varnish inside

Tires are older than the Joe Dirt script

Back of gauges are wrapped in tape, plastic underneath looks cracked up

Fuse cover was so brittle it broken when I unscrewed it.

Also found this hose stuffed in the airbox. I gotta look through the parts blowups and see where it belongs

Overall though, not bad. Mostly cleanup and restoration/restomodding.
 

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Had to get up early this morning to take the wife to work, so while I was back home and enjoying the silence of the kid still being in bed, I did a little work.

Cleaned it up some to what you see in the pics above.

Stole the dirt bars off The Rat. The new position feels MUCH better. I'm not sitting back holding onto swept back bars. I'm leaning into the bars more, SOLID.

Adjusted the rear brake lever so I didn't have to pull my foot off the peg, and then massively tightened down the rear brake rod. Was set for like full 1/4 rotation to engage the brake. Fuck that. Now, 1 inch of rotation and you've hit full brake.

I was going to swap wheels for the EN450 wheels, since they have damn near new tires (almost zero road time, but dated from 2014 and 2015), axle sizes are the same, but the front rotor is diffrent diameter, I still don't have the right spacer for using the EX500 cush in the EN450 wheel (EN450 was a belt drive, not chain). So I'll just say screw it, and order tires once the cash becomes available (aka, once the rest of the bike is done).

I gotta put together a full parts list and checklist. Won't take much to put this on the road. Honestly, if I had the money, I'd order everything tonight, do it next weekend, and ride the piss out of this thing all summer and fall. But, in spite of working full time, and earning a decent wage, I lose a lot of money to taxes, child support, etc. Plus bills are a pain in the dick.

So, piece at a time.
 

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Now to get to the second half of the title....what about down the road?

Well since I already need to replace some parts, I want to upgrade at the same time. And when I knew I had to replace the bars, and I thought about using my dirt bars, I started thinking about the looks of the bike. Unlike my Sabre, this is a standard with more "normal" dimensions. My Sabre had a TALL neck with stupid long forks, was shaft drive, etc etc etc.
This bike has a more standard neck size, shorter forks, monoshock, etc.

I like the look of this bike, and even though it's only a twin, it has some cool features in it. For example it has a forged crankshaft with a centrifugal balancer(?) hanging off it. Below 3k, the balancer stays engaged, more weight to keep the crank spinning so you can't lug it so bad, above 3k it disengages for faster rev accel, etc. And it got me thinking that something like that almost sounds like 80's superbike kind of tech.

Well 80's superbikes or muscle bikes all had kind of a similar shape, and this bike has that kind of shape. So why not slowly build a mini-musclebike? A small Suzuki version of something like the CB1100F?

I like this idea!

So what would I do?

USD swap, rear arm swap for something with rear disc. Why? I still prefer the swept 3 spoke wheels of the Katana. I want to use a set again.

Since the seat requires redoing, I want to have it shaved into a deep cut, sit further into the bike. Little stiffer foam, gel layer on top, etc.

Taillight base is busted, so why not go with something simple but upgraded? In combo, the rear doesn't have much shape. Seat butts up against a bar, and then there's a chrome fender. So why not go with a combo upgrade. Throw in something like a GS550 rear tail (black bike in pics), compact fender, and a flat panel LED taillight.

These engines sound good with different mufflers, but I really dont like dual exhausts too much. I'd love to find a 2-1 system that would work, but odd's are I'll have to build one.
Set of pods would be nice too.
There's also one other possible option, I'll get to that in a bit.

On the front, other than the USD's I want to keep the older look. 7" light will stay, and ideally so would that front marker light, but I'll be upgrading the headlight to a Morimoto Sealed7 Bi-Led. If I can't make the stock marker light stay with the USD swap, I might use that to get creative with something else.

With the back of the gauges being cracked up, I want to replace the cluster with something more compact. Move all the indicators to a small board of LED's, get a couple new gauges, and then tuck everything behind a small fairing/windscreen. Just something large enough to go around the headlight and cover the gauges.

Unlike the Sabre, this build WILL remain daily rideable no matter what. If it can't be done in a weekend, it won't be done. This will remain a 2 seater, so that I can take the wife and kid out. And The Rat may be changing direction a little bit. I may turn it into a trike so that the wife can ride something solo.

And a picture for inspiration!
 

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No real updates right now, at least not of the work variety. I did, however, come across another build thread where a guy built his Tempter through a couple variations, and it's given me a parts list to start with for the future mods.

Things that will fit:
gs750es aluminum swingarm with an 01 Katana 750 rear wheel and a 150/70-17 tire, and pairs up with a gs500 brake caliper
the stock swingarm can take a ducati m900 rear shock with the gr650 spring on, though an upper mount mod would be required to keep it on the gs750es swingarm
98-06 katana 600/750 steering stem matches the gr650 stem in both bearing sizes and length. Does anyone know how long Katana forks are?
GS450 2-1 exhaust can be made to fit. I didn't see details on what it took to fit, but apparently it was close enough to work with seemingly small modification.

The builder took the bike mostly in a vintage racer direction, but he used a couple other small bits that I like the idea of.
 

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It's looking up. I've got a fat check coming in the near future, and one of the first things it's doing is buying everything I need for the bike.

For now, I've decided to go ahead and swap the tire from the EN450 front rim to get things started. It's a like new Dunlop D404F in the right sizing. Date code of 2014, but it's been indoors most of it's existence, I see no reason not to run it. Then I can at least put the front wheel on right, button that up.
 

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I'm fucking bouncing in my seat waiting for this fucking money....... GAHHH!!!!!

Ok, so I added a few things to my list to order right away.

Morimoto Sealed7 1.0 led 7" headlight (on clearance for 75 each at TRS)
some nice LED mirrors
possibly some newer Suzuki switch pods. I don't like the left switchpod on this thing. The signals and hi/low are all one stick. It's a little funky to operate barehanded, I already know it's gonna suck with gloves on. SV650 controls have the lever style choke, so it should be easy to make work with my current cable.

I'm gonna be putting miles on this thing right off the bat, so I might as well just jump right into some good parts for it instead of waiting.
 

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Yes! YES!!!! Moving forward very soon! The money I'm waiting on is on it's way.

In a couple weeks I should be ordering everything I need for the Tempter, plus finally getting bars and a key for the Madura.

Now, I hate to say it, but IDK if I'm going to keep the Madura now. I've been looking more and more at the 2017 and newer HD Road Glides. I've never been a Harley fan, I still can't stand the fucking crowds, the Harley mentality, the elitism, etc. But the bikes have come a pretty decent distance. The motors no longer shake themselves like a fucking vibrator, the ride is improved (so I've read, I still haven't taken one out yet, but soon), and while they're still heavy, they are comfortable and smooth. Was at the dealer the other day, and heard one of the 114's fire up with a set of Klok Werks pipes on it. Smooth, mellow, none of that raspy stacato potato potato fuck you shit. Actually sounds like something that will stay alive at a stop light.

And if things go as planned, I'll be financing one next year. I won't really have a place for something like the Madura once I get the Road Glide. In the mean time I'm still gonna be working on cleaning up the Madura and putting it on the road, but it may be mostly just maintenance and restoration, rather than customization.

To be continued once I can order parts!
 

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I'm supposed to be picking up a b king for 2500$ in the morning. I intend to pick it up, hate it, sell it for 5k.

have a 919 right now that I love. you should test ride one of them. probably the best all around bike I've ever ridden.
 

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I can't ride most sport bikes or sport style bikes. My hip just can't take it.

I'm stuck with standards and cruiser (not that that's a bad thing)

Still waiting on this motherfucking check to drop. I got an ebay cart full of shit for the bike, I'm fucking DYING over here waiting to hit PAY NOW
 

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919 is just a smoother efi version of an old cb. nothing fancy. upright riding. comfortable banana seat. thats why I brought it up.
 

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The 919, great in the dry, very front heavy due to the engine position, shakes its head at the slightest bit of the front end going light.
Too much low down torque in the wet so the rear spins up really easy which gives you no confidence in the wet.

Looking at selling mine soon before it bites me and gets me into some serious trouble.
 

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they suffer from under built forks for certain. I still love them. too much torque isn't a thing, you are mistaken. you swap forks/front end and shock and you have a very capable bike. I don't mind slower bikes acting funny though. I think they are amazing for what you can pay for them.
 

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Not gonna say the 919 is bad, but the frames are as stiff as overcooked spaghetti. My full perimeter old school CB-F frames are stiffer than the 919 and handle better with the mods I've done. A naked 900RR with dirty bars is 10 times the bike the 919 is. Better frame, suspension, brakes, forks, same motor.
 

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919 power delivery smooth like butter bro. never ridden a 900rr that was crisp and smooth. had a bunch of cbs. every cbr made. I feel like they are great at what they do. no reason to ride a 900 when you can ride a 929/954 either. talk about smooth. but the 919 also looks better than the 900. fuel injection matters.
 

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Uggggghhhhhh the wait is killing me. But in the mean time, Tues and Wed, wife is off work, her and I are ripping apart the shop, cleaning and rearranging, and getting setup. I'm gonna move the Tempter to the shop in preparation of the parts arriving, it'll be nice to finally have the room to do so.

I think I know what I want to do with the Madura now. I've mentioned that I'm looking at a newer Road Glide with the Milwaukee 8 motor, and I've mentioned a couple times in past posts that my dad used to have an XS1100 that he slowly pieced together into a touring bike, picking up all the Vetter parts he could for it. Well part of the appeal to Road Glide is the low slung seating, while still having enough luggage to go out on the road for long trips (even without the Tour Pack on the back).

So why not combine both into the Madura? The Madura has a fairly low slung seat, a big (for japanese bikes) motor, etc. I don't want to go full Cavalcade/GoldWing/Venture, but I could still make a Japanese Road Glide using Vetter Windjammer fairing (prolly the Windjammer V) and hardbags, and make a removable "Tour Pack" using a rack and the Vetter trunk.
 
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