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· Hard Core Sledder
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Gas tanks are bad for a.couple reasons.. they contain 4 or so gallons of highly explosive liquid. In the even of an accident it could combust. Or leak fire pee on you.

They rust out. And may leak.fire pee on your pipes. .... speaking of that. Damned oil coolers too. Fittings leak. Bungs crack welds and leak. Thwn bam oil hits your hot unwrapped pipe.

Your on fire.

If your worried about fire. Stay out of cars trucks planes tanks motorcycles and lawn mowers. They will all kill you dead.




Heres some header wrap facts.




Its a woven material so yes it can hold moisture. But can it retain moisture whilst wrapped around a 1200* tube? Thats a big no. If you get caught in the rain bfd. 5-10 mins of running without new water applied will dry the shit right out.

Oil. Yep. Oils bad. It starts fires. Whats ot do when it hits a near cherry red raw stainless header pipe holy sheepshit fireballs.

Wrapping is a great thing. BUT you have to treat it well. I.e. DONT LET IT GET OIL SOAKED!. Just as you dont want oil on your bare headers.

Rust is also a direct reaction from misuse or being lazy or both. Idiocy is the problem not the wrap.



I fucking hate it when people do that...

Moral is

DONT BE A FUCKING LAZY TOOL. TREAT YOUR BIKE LIKE YOU GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT. and its amazing what WONT happen.
Btw i rock header wrap all winter on my big triple arctic cat. And i have very nice pipes under the wrap. Cause they are cared for and treated with respect.






My pipes constantly eat snow and get wet. But they DONOT stay wet long. Its pretty awsome actually.
 

· Hard Core Sledder
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Out of all that... the 1 thing that rings out to me is the length of time it takes to cool a wrapped pipe. And perhaps some.of my positive experience with this is because they live in 20 and below degrees. Speeding up the cool down to be as good as a.bare header cooling on a summer day. Or just a bit faster.

Can we also take into account material quality. We all know 90% of mildsteel headers for car applications are pure shit. And prolly half or more of the aftermarket stainless is shit too.

I do concede that ive heard many a horror story about "wraprot" ... and pipes on my sled ARE shit mild steel. But in nice condition. :) ..so with all that in mind i make damn sure to treat those babies with kid gloves. And so far its done me well. I keep higher pipe temps which allows me to clutch a few hundred rpm higher.. and on a sled that means more mph as a result.. the other benefit is the incoming air isnt cooling one pipe or another throwing the tune up off.

I will say when.i spend good money on bitchin pipes theres only one consideration. Swain tech. Then a wrap job to mask the pipe.brand and the heavy $ spent at ST. :).


And ty steve... i appreciate that.. it took awhile to get compound curved cones wrapped with any kind niceness.
 

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On a side note, I notice your headers go up above your engine, rather than down around it like a motorcycle's. Thus, when you change your oil and filter there is slim chance of it leaking all over the cloth header wraps. On the other hand, it's very easy for a motorcycle to dump oil on a header during an oil change; so how do you wipe oil out of cloth as opposed to wiping it off bare metal? Unless you think it's a good idea to change your oil with cherry red pipes (of course, wouldn't the bike have to be running to keep bare metal cherry red)? Sure, it's great to sound cavalier about a fire erupting between your legs, especially when it's something you don't have to worry about.
No oilchanges. Shes oil injected. And who on earth would change oil around hot pipes.. really? Theres only 1 time when oil would meet a hot headpipe. Thats a mech failure..... who doesnt fashion a bitchin aluminum foil oil drainoff doohickey to keep them from having to even worry about wiping a pipe down..

Secondly im the kind of guy that thinks its ok even prudent to remove a sexc polished or wrapped header ( where applicable... . Some bikes just arent realistic to consider) in order to keep it as good as it;s gunna be for as long as possible. .


Back to the oilchange bit... all you could think of is oilchange with hot pipes... :facepalm: ... like i was saying. Component failure is about all that will introduce oil to cherry head pipe. And at that moment it dont matter if its raw. Coated. Or wrapped.... shits on fire y0. ..

So. If your the owner of wrapped stuff. Use your bean when changin your oil ... thats all it takes.

And i will stand with you about oilsoaked wrap. It is dangerous. If ya oiled it good its absolutely time for a re wrap...


It IS easy to sound cavalier sure. But fire is a very large and real concern with a sled.. in many more ways... and i rock 10.2 gal of fuel between my legs .

And sorry that other post read so dickie. But way to many people base opinion bs they read online. All blind blame. Ya know what i mean. Ya gotta open and see the whole picture. Careless owner? Haphazard mechanic? Cheap shitty headers mild or s.s. ? Etc. Etc. Etc. All things make for a bad situation .. and not one you or i could base an opinion from.
 
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