Custom Fighters - Custom Streetfighter Motorcycle Forum banner
21 - 40 of 53 Posts

· Cafe' R1
Joined
·
15 Posts
definitely wrap the exhaust off the bike. wrap all 4 pipes separately then over lap the 4 to 1 pipe onto the 4 pipes using stainless steal ties to keep it all in place. Make sure you soak the wrap before you wrap the pipes too. Ive attached some pics.
 

Attachments

· Newbie
Joined
·
66 Posts
First off wrap them back to front chose the three you want to wrap just the primeries then on the forth one start as far back as you like i personaly started at the clamp that held on the silencer so i could remove it if i ever wanted then wrapped forward. Secondly do it outside if possible and off the bike becouse your gonna wanna do it wet and it just bleeds nasty shit dont forget a mask its the one time you wish you would have listened becouse you will have black snot for two weeks if you dont gloves also if possible or your hands will itch like crazy.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
1,519 Posts
Always wrap from the silencer end towards the exhaust ports, this will ensure the overlapped joints allow water to run off rather than running under the overlap. this will help mild steel headers to last somewhat longer. I use stainless lockwire and lockwire pliers to secure the wrap. You can get a much tighter fixing with lockwire rather than the stainless rape ties. As has been said soak the wrap before applying it, and once it is all done and the exhaust refitted, run the engine up OUTSIDE and let the wrap burn in. If you run the motor in an enclosed space you will choke yerself silly as the wrap burns in. Also make sure you do not have any little oil leaks from either the sump bolts or the drain bolt, as the wrap will absorb the oil and smoke like fuck when you fire the bike up.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
48 Posts
okay, I ride my bike as primary transportation as it is my only vehicle, so what happens to the wrap if I ride in the rain? and would the greater daily mileage dramatically increase the corrosive effects of the wrap on my pipes?
 

· Legit goon
Joined
·
1,466 Posts
okay, I ride my bike as primary transportation as it is my only vehicle, so what happens to the wrap if I ride in the rain? and would the greater daily mileage dramatically increase the corrosive effects of the wrap on my pipes?
I'd also like to know this one. Wrapped headers look real slick but it constantly rains here and
I'd like to know what affect this will have on the headers?
 

· Registered
Joined
·
92 Posts
I know some you have to spray this crap they sell in a can its 15$ in fl but its like a sealer I'm assuming that keeps out the rain and moisture, if you don't do that I think rain could possibly get in the wrapping and sit in there cause the exhaust to rust faster. I THINK, someone on here will know but I'm assuming that's what would happen
 

· Legit goon
Joined
·
1,466 Posts

· Newbie
Joined
·
10 Posts
Hey, first off, why does everyone wrap the exhause from front to back? it seems like all bugs and dirt will get trapped in the seems that way?
And, anyone know if they sell a clear exhaust wrap spray? i got the blackish grey wrap at the store by me, and the only spray they sell is black. It would be cool to keep the greyish look with a spray that is clear to match the rest of the bike. Do they make this? I only see aluminum color, white or black. thanks
 

· Cmon' Kitty!
Joined
·
827 Posts
VHT sells an array of exhaust paint, autozoo carries them or you can order online. As for the rain issue, I drove my wrapped pipes ~300 miles in the rain, the only effect I noticed was that they got washed :)

Just let it idle and dry the pipes when you get where you're going.
 

· Watch the world burn
Joined
·
1,059 Posts
Wrapped headers are really bad for a couple reasons. Namely: heat cycling, trapping moisture, spontanious combustion if oil gets on them, unable to see condition of headers.

The ceramic paint is better, especially if you do inside and out. If you like the wrapped look and arn't worried about the fire then wrap over the ceramic coating.
 

· Hard Core Sledder
Joined
·
1,608 Posts
Gas tanks are bad for a.couple reasons.. they contain 4 or so gallons of highly explosive liquid. In the even of an accident it could combust. Or leak fire pee on you.

They rust out. And may leak.fire pee on your pipes. .... speaking of that. Damned oil coolers too. Fittings leak. Bungs crack welds and leak. Thwn bam oil hits your hot unwrapped pipe.

Your on fire.

If your worried about fire. Stay out of cars trucks planes tanks motorcycles and lawn mowers. They will all kill you dead.




Heres some header wrap facts.




Its a woven material so yes it can hold moisture. But can it retain moisture whilst wrapped around a 1200* tube? Thats a big no. If you get caught in the rain bfd. 5-10 mins of running without new water applied will dry the shit right out.

Oil. Yep. Oils bad. It starts fires. Whats ot do when it hits a near cherry red raw stainless header pipe holy sheepshit fireballs.

Wrapping is a great thing. BUT you have to treat it well. I.e. DONT LET IT GET OIL SOAKED!. Just as you dont want oil on your bare headers.

Rust is also a direct reaction from misuse or being lazy or both. Idiocy is the problem not the wrap.



I fucking hate it when people do that...

Moral is

DONT BE A FUCKING LAZY TOOL. TREAT YOUR BIKE LIKE YOU GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IT. and its amazing what WONT happen.
Btw i rock header wrap all winter on my big triple arctic cat. And i have very nice pipes under the wrap. Cause they are cared for and treated with respect.






My pipes constantly eat snow and get wet. But they DONOT stay wet long. Its pretty awsome actually.
 

· Watch the world burn
Joined
·
1,059 Posts
Should I use a Header Wrap?*
NO! ABSOLUTELY NOT. There is nothing that will damage a header faster than the use of a header wrap, other than attacking it with a hammer or shot gun.* As advertised, these wraps do keep the majority of exhaust gas temperatures within the header.* The result is the wraps will prohibit the header tubing from cooling properly.* If you reduce the ability for headers to dissipate adequate heat properly, the result will* be premature failure of the metal.** Depending upon the application use and temperatures involved, the life can be reduced to only a few hours.* We consider exhaust wraps to be the header manufacturer's best friend.*

If engine compartment temperatures are an issue, the best solution is to use insulation materials on the sheet metal.* One alternative in some applications is to build a box around the headers and actually duct outside air into the box.* In some applications ceramic coatings have been known to help (see notes on coatings above).* Insulating any components that may be sensitive to heat, such as wiring, fuel & oil lines, etc., are a better option.

IMPORTANT: Use of header wraps will void any warranty.
Top


From: http://www.stahlheaders.com/faq.htm

They make headers, they're not selling ceramic coating, but they do say its ok. Header wrap voids the warrenty.

http://www.centuryperformance.com/exhaust-header-heat-wraps-do-not-use.html

Another article, a bit more technical and indepth.

I personally don't care if you wrap your headers in banana peels and glue on skittles, but a sticky in the newb section should hold some information about the pros and cons.

On a side note, I notice your headers go up above your engine, rather than down around it like a motorcycle's. Thus, when you change your oil and filter there is slim chance of it leaking all over the cloth header wraps. On the other hand, it's very easy for a motorcycle to dump oil on a header during an oil change; so how do you wipe oil out of cloth as opposed to wiping it off bare metal? Unless you think it's a good idea to change your oil with cherry red pipes (of course, wouldn't the bike have to be running to keep bare metal cherry red)? Sure, it's great to sound cavalier about a fire erupting between your legs, especially when it's something you don't have to worry about.
 
21 - 40 of 53 Posts
Top