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damn!!!!:hairpull: my damn bandit limits out just before red lining (130mph) can i remove the mother f***** im a mechanic but i dont know how its restricted any help??
 

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The ECU reads the RPM and gear signals and compares them. It cuts fuel when you get to a certain RPM in top gear.

A lot of suzukis can use a modified gear position sensor to eliminate the top speed governor. You just make the bike think it's in a lower gear.

The gear position sensor works on different resistances. Find out the resistance of your two top gears. Then add a resistor to the wiring harness so when the bike is in top gear, it's the same resistance as a lower gear. Make sense?
 

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I dont understand why, so you can get another 2mph top end? The limiter is there so you dont float the valves and do damage.
 

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I dont understand why, so you can get another 2mph top end? The limiter is there so you dont float the valves and do damage.
2 questions:

#1: What sprocket sizes are you running different to stock

#2: Have you heard about Gpack TRE's?
 

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2 questions:

#1: What sprocket sizes are you running different to stock

#2: Have you heard about Gpack TRE's?
gearing should not affect the rpm a limiter kicks in at.

TRE (even if the bandit had a timing retard which I dont think it does) would only affect timing in the lower portion of the rpm range and the bandit has no top speed limiter to supercede.
 

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Gearing will effect what speed it kicks in, though :)

The TRE tricks the ECU into thinking it's in a lower gear and removes any speed governor. Lots of bikes have that effect... TRE is actually a misnomer in some senses.
 

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isn't it a 600 you talking about? I guess in that case it has nothing to do with a rev limiter ;)

edit: and yes you can remove it, just put a 1200 in it and you are good for 145-150mph depending on your setup

...or better - put a 1100 Gixxer in it :jump_fire:
 

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what do you expect out of a 600? even the 1200 are going just 145/150mph.
If you really want to redline your ride go and change the sprocket ratio
what is your maximum rev in the highest gear and what sprockets are you running?

don't forget, 1 tooth on the front is nearly like 3 on the rear
 

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The ECU reads the RPM and gear signals and compares them. It cuts fuel when you get to a certain RPM in top gear.

A lot of suzukis can use a modified gear position sensor to eliminate the top speed governor. You just make the bike think it's in a lower gear.

The gear position sensor works on different resistances. Find out the resistance of your two top gears. Then add a resistor to the wiring harness so when the bike is in top gear, it's the same resistance as a lower gear. Make sense?

Dude, do you even look into what kind of bike someone has before answering a question? I've seen a lot of this kind of stuff from you.

First off he has a carb'ed bike. The ECU isn't pulling fuel. The ECU isn't really even an ECU. It's assuming the bike has fuel and just adds spark as the crank turns faster. It's an igniter box if it's anything like Bandit 1200's and gsxr's.

punkvernie:
Before you go adding a resistor to some random wire I suggest you obtain an schematic of your bike and methodically eliminate items until you have a good idea of what exactly is controlling the speeed on your bike. Not only will you know for sure but you'll also learn a great deal about how your bike works.
 

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Dude, do you even look into what kind of bike someone has before answering a question? I've seen a lot of this kind of stuff from you.

I just sorta spout information. I don't dwell a lot on each thread so I offer what I knowledge I have before I move on and hope it helps. Plus I have communicative aphasia from my neurological problems so I tend to type something completely different from what I was actually thinking.

I also don't know much about specific bike models, especially older ones, so all I can offer is advice based on the theories which I understand.
Thanks for your correction and sorry.
 

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I just sorta spout information. I don't dwell a lot on each thread so I offer what I knowledge I have before I move on and hope it helps. Plus I have communicative aphasia from my neurological problems so I tend to type something completely different from what I was actually thinking.

I also don't know much about specific bike models, especially older ones, so all I can offer is advice based on the theories which I understand.
Thanks for your correction and sorry.

You should try to make that clear that you "might think: " so people don't start looking for their solenoid valves on their carberators. :LolLolLolLol:
 

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I just sorta spout information. I don't dwell a lot on each thread so I offer what I knowledge I have before I move on and hope it helps. Plus I have communicative aphasia from my neurological problems so I tend to type something completely different from what I was actually thinking.
Whoooooo Hooooooo! THAT is what I call a Rapierreply to aSabrecomment.

Will Rep and add to buddy list if this helps smooth any light ego scuffs :)

Now, why do you wanna go redlining for anyway? are you from german streetfighter stock or sumthin? These dudes party till dawn at any race meeting campsite and get a buzz from banging off the rev limiter for hours as they melt perfectly good tires doing burnouts and donuts and keeping the rest of us drunken bums awake all fkn night.

Anyway, your stock zook speedo is normally 15% out optimistically, so sorry to piss on your bonfire but you are probably only really seeing 120-ish MPH if indicated top speed rings your bell..

Just do what svenseman sed...You be ok right? :LolLolLolLol: :nuts:
 

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what do you expect out of a 600? even the 1200 are going just 145/150mph.
If you really want to redline your ride go and change the sprocket ratio
what is your maximum rev in the highest gear and what sprockets are you running?

don't forget, 1 tooth on the front is nearly like 3 on the rear
I think I sorta asked this already.

But If you want to pull a higher gear to prevent the rev limiter kicking in, you will find that you will get better fuel consumption on a long run and if conditions are right, like following wind and long down-hill staight you will see a higher indicated top speed.

IMO the neatest, cheapest fix you can do for an immediate noticeable performance hike for fun street fightin activities is to drop 1 tooth down or add 2/3 teeth on the rear sprocket.
 

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ever heard of a speedo healer? i got one on my bandit:stupid: i do know that it was 15% out that got me in trouble a few times so i got one works a treat recomend them



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what are the DYNO sizes for a 2002 bandit 600 i gotta box full of them and sorted the neadles out any help?
 
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