Where to relocate the steering damper???

2013 Views 11 Replies 7 Participants Last post by Problomatic, Aug 8, 2013

Mighty_Sasquatch

Discussion Starter · Aug 2, 2013 (Edited)

Hey fellas, I have an 05 R1 that I installed an LSL Urban Headlight on. To get it in the location I desired I had to remove the damper.. I honestly didn't think it would make that BIG a difference.. Boy, does it! Where have you guy's relocated them and how?? I'd like to get my handling back. Thanks!!

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Ruby Racing

· #2 · Aug 2, 2013

How about a Pit bull type on the top yoke, or same place but Ducati 916 stylee?

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Problomatic

· #3 · Aug 2, 2013

What kind of handling did you lose?

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DecepticonDon

· #4 · Aug 2, 2013

Ruby Racing said:
How about a Pit bull type on the top yoke, or same place but Ducati 916 stylee?

This. Although not sure how your gauges are mounted

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Andrewvw

· #5 · Aug 2, 2013

Those pit bull ones look sweet I wish I could fit one on my gsxr 1100.

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Mighty_Sasquatch

Discussion Starter · #6 · Aug 6, 2013

Ruby Racing said:
How about a Pit bull type on the top yoke, or same place but Ducati 916 stylee?

My gauges will probably be in the way for the pitbull.... What ya think??

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Mighty_Sasquatch

Discussion Starter · #7 · Aug 6, 2013

Problomatic said:
What kind of handling did you lose?

Steering feels very loose without it. I really notice going over bumps, railroad tracks or anything else that will cause a bit of a bounce. It seems to allow a slight side to side wobble from front tire to back tire. Almost like purposefully wiggling the handle bars. The scary part is a quick change in speed or turn.. Example: Passing and quickly jumping back into your lane but braking to get between cars. This causes a whole lot of front to rear wobble. I don't like it. I can even feel a little wobble just barely releasing throttle in a turn.

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crystal_skull

· #8 · Aug 6, 2013

i may be wrong but it sounds to me like you not use to how "loose" it feels and holding on too tight usually the wiggle moving from the front to back like that is a sign that you dampener is to tight
and the steering feels loose cuz the dampener is not fighting you anymore.

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Ruby Racing

· #9 · Aug 6, 2013

Mighty_Sasquatch said:
My gauges will probably be in the way for the pitbull.... What ya think??

Yeah, that probably is too tight.

Can you not mount it under the bottom yoke and on a fork leg? Possibly that's where you've just moved it from, I'm not sure.

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Problomatic

· #10 · Aug 8, 2013

Mighty_Sasquatch said:
Steering feels very loose without it. I really notice going over bumps, railroad tracks or anything else that will cause a bit of a bounce. It seems to allow a slight side to side wobble from front tire to back tire. Almost like purposefully wiggling the handle bars. The scary part is a quick change in speed or turn.. Example: Passing and quickly jumping back into your lane but braking to get between cars. This causes a whole lot of front to rear wobble. I don't like it. I can even feel a little wobble just barely releasing throttle in a turn.

Sounds more like a bike or riding style issue and less like a steering dampner issue. The front to rear wobble sounds like suspension pogoing rather than headshake. But I might just be reading it wrong. The real red flags are the going over bumps/railroad tracks (I'm assuming you're taking those slowly), the wobble under braking (this would put more weight on the front end, exactly the opposite of what causes headshake), the "loose" steering , and releasing throttle in a turn(same as hitting brakes, this would put more weight to the front). None of those are cured by a steering dampner. Some are masked by one though.

Sounds like your grip is too tight, you suspension may be incorrectly adjusted, and you may need to adjust your posture.

If you're hell bent on your dampner, I've seen them mounted underneath the yoke and behind the forks, or (this didn't look like a good idea) mounted on the side from the frame to the fork. I've seen it done, and the guy said it worked. What about behind/below your light, attached to the front of the neck with a decent tab?

Some ideas:

http://www.riderforums.com/ninja-650r-accessories/41771-custom-mod-1-steering-damper.html

http://www.riderforums.com/ninja-65...lled-penske-shock-ohlins-steering-damper.html

These are both on 650's. (1) they have no steering dampners so guys had to get creative putting them on (2) I'm familiar with them, lol.

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370steve

· #11 · Aug 8, 2013

Problomatic said:
or (this didn't look like a good idea) mounted on the side from the frame to the fork. I've seen it done, and the guy said it worked.

thats how they were always mounted until ducati mounted them up on the triple trees!
thats how i have one mounted on my hornet, just about all hornet race bikes have them there.

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Problomatic

· #12 · Aug 8, 2013

370steve said:
thats how they were always mounted until ducati mounted them up on the triple trees!
thats how i have one mounted on my hornet, just about all hornet race bikes have them there.

For a long time bikes had drum brakes, or one brake up front... Still doesn't make it a good idea (unless you're rockin buell's brake idea). There's lots of things that were done at one time until a better idea came along.... But it does work, so thats why I showed him. Then again, I don't think a glass bottle for a coolant overflow is a good idea, so what do I know?

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