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What is a Cafe fighter

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#1 ·
So XPO street fighter is going to be on the next cafe racer tv show.

From what i am seeing cafe fighters are mid 80s and early 70s bikes (power plant frame) with modern parts on them. USDs swing arm setups ect ect ect

in this care fighter sub forum all i see get posted is cafe racers, sure i love them to death but from what i am seeing there is a very distinct difference between the both of these sub genera of motorcycles.

I am not trying to a debate or trouble, i just want to see what you guys think.
 
#3 ·
I think a cafe fighter is a cafe type bike, usually an older model, with fighter qualities ie blacked out, modern suspension, modern wheels, sort of hot rodded out. Whereas a classic cafe would more along line of the shiny chrome parts, attention to detail etc.

I think my bike falls into the "cafe-fighter" catagory, maybe I am wrong, but that is how I picture it.


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#5 ·
I'm a little burnt out on motorcycle genre definition threads, but here's my take:


All of our Custom bikes are fighters, lots of cafe's fit in that category, but not every one.


I'd call what you're describing a "modern cafe".
 
#6 ·
any idea where to find a copy of that show online, I'd kinda like to see it. AJ is a cool dude.
 
#7 ·
I wouldn't call the CL360 I'm working on a fighter at all but I'm a little reluctant to call it a cafe bike simply because I wasn't around when cafe bikes were all the rage. Everyone has their own idea of what group or class a bike falls into but if I had to put the 360 in one it would be cafe. I just build what I like and appreciate what I like that has been done to other bikes.

I would agree with you that a cafe fighter is an older bike (generally early 80's and older) with modern suspension, brakes, likely some frame bracing, and maybe some engine work.
 
#10 ·
Pointless discussion
cafe fighters are mid 80s and early 70s bikes (power plant frame) with modern parts on them. USDs swing arm setups ect ect ect
ok, taking your definition this would be a Café Fighter ?

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But then, WTF is that ? A Space Café ?
Modern Frame, strong watercooled Engine, low handlebars, with the flat straight racing-Style of a Café Racer.
It's no Fighter, and no Café racer ... ;)
:smiley_abzv:

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#18 ·
I had this exact same debate with a mate the other day, I would consider mine to be a cafe fighter but its a 96 Vfr so by no means an old classic steel framer, but yet it still has a cafe tail and overall look, witht the flat bars, but no bling, so I don't really know what to call it?... It's a cafeish fightery road style going type bike thingy...

 
#21 ·
LOL... Do a line of coke, a quad shot of expresso, find the nearest Where's-Waldo looking mother fucker and kick his fucking teeth in...


That sir is a cafe fighter...
 
#28 ·
It's the process of building, not the extension of hypothetical and opinionated declarations and categorization....


I can't get my nut in threads like these... It's like a chick that won't shut the fuck up about sub-par interior decorating when her face is buried in my 1000 thread count egyptian cotton cased goose down pillow...
 
#30 ·
Seems to me, that cafe racers were (origionally) stripped down, modded up bikes built for performance. Later, when it got more ?gucci? And became an image instead of something uou actually did is what we percieve as cafe racers. So, in the true spirit of things. The roots of all fighters are cafe racers. We strip down the parts we don't need and make our bikes meansr, faster. And as all levels of evolution go... What is cool one day is style the next. So from "ratted out wrecked my bike but cant affort to make it mint slap shit together to keep it going" turns into "i got this sic face put on my seat that I had custom made by a band of midgets and added all this bling.." where once form followed function, now form not only dictates function...but ends some functions entirely.

So really every fighter made to ride hard and not pose on is in the truest sense a cafe. And every fighter thats made to look purdy but rides like shit is just a cafe's groupie.
 
#31 ·
...and every motorcycle ever built still adheres to the same physical and gravitational laws and limits of reality. Thus making it a moot point to discuss the design, styling, or usability of said machines. Just build them and let the masses name them.



What is a street fighter...


What is a cafe racer.....


What is a rat bike........


:wtf:







It is starting to feel like I am one of the guys from back in 2009 when I joined that were so sick of these conversations and I couldn't understand why.... I get it now, it's been done over and and over with the same shit-tastic results for almost 8 years now. No wonder none of the regulars post much anymore. There isn't much new. So many good builders are quiet or gone, 5 or 6 regular ones to watch, but it used to be 20 or 30 good ones to watch. The questions killed the answers around here and scattered the seeds to the wind. The original CF is gone, I'm afraid. :(